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Oh that is for my daily use I am using standard. At 4.2GHz I need 1.185v and my offset was at -0.085v using LLC set on medium resulted in crash when going full idle as the voltage was going down in the 0.5v range even though it was doing perfectly fine at load voltage. Increasing offset to -0.06v with standard LLC to maintain the 1.18v load resulted in 0.68v full idle voltage and 1.185v so I am quite happy with that.

I am new to the offset voltage world as a previous P55 owner.

I will eventually aim for 4.7-4.8GHz with HT as my gaming profile when I will have more time to spend on games smile.gif
4.2GHz is overkill for web-surfing and browsing biggrin.gif

When I pushed the box to 5.2GHz, the settings were all aggressive, nearly everything set to extreme. 1.5v (LLC kick-in) was way too much for me anyway, I saw what the CPU was capable and I decided to stop there. 4.8GHz is really the wall for sandy, past that and voltage increase is non-linear. If I remember, 1.34-5v was enough for 4.8, 1.4v for 5GHz and .1v just for a 200MHz gain (5.2GHz).

Anyhoe bed time wink.gif

Hmmm ok, well I'm using Ultra High LLC now and I'm at 1.48V 4.8GHz and am failing Prime95 at around the 15-hr mark. I guess my chip is really voltage hungry.

Right now, I'm not sure if UH or H LLC is better?
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Hmmm ok, well I'm using Ultra High LLC now and I'm at 1.48V 4.8GHz and am failing Prime95 at around the 15-hr mark. I guess my chip is really voltage hungry.

Right now, I'm not sure if UH or H LLC is better?

Why does it matter if you fail Prime at 15 hour mark? I would dare to bet you will never get a crash in normal usage.
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Why does it matter if you fail Prime at 15 hour mark? I would dare to bet you will never get a crash in normal usage.
because corrupted files suck. i corrupted windows from too many bso'd while testing i believe. sucked having to reinstall everything a 4th time.
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Why does it matter if you fail Prime at 15 hour mark? I would dare to bet you will never get a crash in normal usage.

We have different definitions for rock solid stable, ok? Mine is 24 hours because it takes about 22 hours to test all 84 FFTs from 8 to 4096 using the default 15 mins. per FFT interval. Satisfied with my answer?

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because corrupted files suck. i corrupted windows from too many bso'd while testing i believe. sucked having to reinstall everything a 4th time.

Hey mate. Any news on your test between different LLC levels?
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I don't think I have ever ran Prime for more than 30 minutes and IBT on Standard for 10 runs.

No BSODs, nothing.
Doesn't matter if its BF3 I play or WOT or anything, no instability to be seen.

And running 5.15GHz atm compared to the sigs 5GHz.
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I don't think I have ever ran Prime for more than 30 minutes and IBT on Standard for 10 runs.

No BSODs, nothing.
Doesn't matter if its BF3 I play or WOT or anything, no instability to be seen.

And running 5.15GHz atm compared to the sigs 5GHz.

Good luck then. Good for you thumb.gif
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Hey mate. Any news on your test between different LLC levels?
went from high llc and +.005 offset and 63*C load temps to med llc and +.045 offset and 63*C load temps. idle temps a few degrees higher. idle voltage a good bit higher.
not working well for me. requires a higher offset of course and it raised it entirely too high for my taste. my idle volts are insanely higher also. temps are the same but it isnt worth it in my case.
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went from high llc and +.005 offset and 63*C load temps to med llc and +.045 offset and 63*C load temps. idle temps a few degrees higher. idle voltage a good bit higher.
not working well for me. requires a higher offset of course and it raised it entirely too high for my taste. my idle volts are insanely higher also. temps are the same but it isnt worth it in my case.

That is exactly what LLC does, it reduces your VCore under load so it is kinda logical that if you turn LLC down from Level 1/Extreme/Whatever-else-it-might-be-called you get require more offset to get same load VCore, LLC is mainly there so you can get higher idle VCore without increasing your load VCore.
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That is exactly what LLC does, it reduces your VCore under load
LLC is mainly there so you can get higher idle VCore without increasing your load VCore.

no. it is so you get a lower idle and reduce vdroop. examples:
reg/0% llc = 1.350v idle
med/25% llc = 1.040v idle
high/50% idle = 1.00v idle
ultra high llc = 0.98v idle

and llc stops/reduces load vdroop by adding more voltage under load conditions.
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no. it is so you get a lower idle and reduce vdroop. examples:
reg/0% llc = 1.350v idle
med/25% llc = 1.040v idle
high/50% idle = 1.00v idle
ultra high llc = 0.98v idle

and llc stops/reduces load vdroop by adding more voltage under load conditions.

You couldn't be more wrong about LLC, it CREATES vdroop under full load for you.

100% LLC, "Level 1" on AsRock (Just an example): 1V Idle, 1.4V Load
75% "Level 2" on AsRock: 1V Idle, 1.35V Load
50% "Level 3" on AsRock: 1V Idle, 1.3V Load
Edited by Stige - 1/24/13 at 5:06pm
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