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Poll Results: Which features are most important to you in a Mini ITX case?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 7% of voters (92)
    Size - the smaller the better. I don't need a full GPU, I want a HTPC-style box.
  • 77% of voters (1009)
    Size - I want it to be small, but I want a full size GPU and full size PSU in there.
  • 11% of voters (154)
    Air cooling - I want lots of fan options, top, sides, back, front.
  • 31% of voters (411)
    Air cooling - I want it to perform well out of the box but we don't need to perforate every single panel.
  • 25% of voters (329)
    "Sleek, Modern" Design - The BitFenix Prodiigy, NZXT Phantom Series, Corsair 600T and other cases with unique designs are my favorite.
  • 49% of voters (646)
    "Refined, Aluminum" Design - Silverstone, Lian-Li, and Corsair Obsidian Series are more my speed.
  • 34% of voters (454)
    Quiet - I want this thing whisper quiet.
  • 45% of voters (596)
    Liquid Cooling - it'd be nice to be able to fit a 240mm radiator in this thing
  • 7% of voters (97)
    HDD Capacity - I want to make a RAID or NAS box, so I want at least four 3.5" drive bays
  • 36% of voters (477)
    HDD Capacity - I just plan on running an OS and a storage drive - two or three drive bays is fine as long as there's native SSD support.
  • 18% of voters (246)
    Portability - handles and whatnot are really important to me. So is overall weight and durability.
  • 19% of voters (255)
    Scent - I like all my computer products to be scratch and sniff. Please make this smell like Lilacs.
  • 2% of voters (32)
    Other - posted in thread.
1308 Total Votes  
post #11 of 1303
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Topmounted 280/360 radiator with 45mm and a single fan (25mm).
Mesh cover for that, with an possible option to buy a Windowkit
No Optical drives needed
3 Native 2.5" slots (2ssd´s and a storage 2.5" HDD with 10mm)
Enought space to fit a gtx690, inverted ITX orientation (cpu below gpu) to show off the GPU waterblock in the Window (optional windowkit for a tiedied up Mainboard backside
For the aircooler it will be sufficient to fit thick GPU´s with a trippleslot aircooler.
The less tray , the better to save weight, but on a ITX there´s not much left after a cutout for a CPU Backplate ;-)
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* a minimum of quiet 120mm/140mm fans that push air (SP120 Quiet edition or AF140 Quiet edition)

* SFF powerhouse : smallest size possible without sacrificing thermals (BitFenix Prodigy without the extra handles) ... basically SFF monster machines for LAN parties
  • should fit GTX 670 or HD 7950 or any other single GPU
  • Carbide Series but ITX size , with compatibility with H100i? or at least 160mm air coolers (akin to Bitfenix Prodigy which can fit Phanteks' twin tower)
  • Handle for transport akin to Corsair C70 or maybe like the Lian-Li PC-TU200 (which supports 11.8" long GPUs)
  • Probably will need to accommodate full size PSU due to high end CPUs needing more power
  • Needs to be reasonably priced for the amount of metal going in it (This is the main reason why the BItfenix Prodigy is popular)... $80 USD would be nice price point.
  • for enthusiasts/Overclocking , thermals are paramount
  • cable routing mounts offered as part of case or as accessory kit
  • Needs to vent GPU outside, because all aftermarket coolers except EVGA (blower) use axial fans
  • USB 3.0 front panel ports
  • Sub $100
  • Compatibility with Corsair AX/HX series PSUs


* HTPC: an ITX box with noise dampening gaskets (Silverstone SUGO series SG-05 /SG-06 / SG-08) ... basically HTPC machines that don't need to be moved often...should fit HTPC style gpu like HD7750 or GT 640 (if not, you're relegated to AMD FM2 socket), vent out the side
  • quietness and discreet appearance a priority here (no LEDs)
  • rubber feet, silicone/neoprene grommets
  • Obsidian series in ITX size , with Corsair H55 compatibility (brushed aluminum finish)
  • Sleek Silverstone SUGO SG-06 look , but with powdercoated rear exterior ... keeping in mind SG05/ SG06 supports 9.5" long GPU ; SG-08 up to 12.2 inches and 400W ; Lian LI PC-Q03 supports up to ~7" long
  • Address SG-06 issue where "On SG06 the two USB ports are too close to each other, preventing you from install two “fat” USB devices at the same time. This problem does not happen with SG05, where the two ports are located far away from each other."
  • Can accomodate only Slim Optical drives to make it smaller? (This shouldn't be an issue)
  • Should fit Noctua low profile, NH-C14 (105 mm height) , NH-L12 (93 mm height) or Phanteks PH-TC14CS Series (112mm height without top fan) .. Silverstone's SG-08 supports up to 117mm
  • Really need a SFX PSU to make this great
  • USB 3.0 front panel , 2.5" hard drive bays (not 3.5")
  • Should fit in a backpack
  • Sub $160 if including a 300-600W PSU, otherwise sub $90

Check Compatibility before releasing:
Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe (very popular due to the VRM)
Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI (need to appease the Customac Mini crowd)
ASRock Z77E-ITX
MSI Z77IA-E53
ASRock FM2A75M-ITX FM2 (AMD's bang for buck board)

Really Corsair needs to mimic Silverstone and release a decent SFX PSU with modular cables (ST45SF-G) for the former, performance minded ITX box. Only other SFXX PSU I can think of is Seasonic's SS-350SFE (350W nonmodular). There's money to be made in ITX when the competition is sparse!
--> Power requirements should be around 500W since you cannot Crossfire/SLI on ITX

*** Will get bonus points for including a Phillips screwdriver head like the Noctua NH-D14 , if there are any phillips screws
*** Should offer a single sleeved I/O cable set for the performance case, purchased separately similar to the Bitfenix alchemy cables, but purchased as part of the Case parts section (akin to http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/obsidian-series-550d-i-o-panel-replacement-with-all-cables.html)
*** Offer hard drive cages for $6-10? (http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/carbide-series-200r-hdd-ssd-cage.html , http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/obsidian-series-550d-drive-cage-with-3-drive-trays.html , http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/carbide-500r-case-hard-drive-cage-3-drive-trays-included.html , http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/vengeance-series-c70-hdd-cage-with-three-3-hdd-trays.html)
*** offer USB3.0 to USB2.0 separately as part of $5 accessory kit, most motherboards from the last 3 years have USB3.0 (Z68,H77,Z77,X79,FM2,990X,990FX) akin to http://www.corsair.com/us/parts/case-parts/obsidian-series-550d-accessory-kit-including-screws.html
Edited by AlphaC - 1/21/13 at 1:15pm
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Rework the prodigy design with old fashioned seperates hi-fi type feet instead of the big rounded things top and bottom,then have the motherboard standoffs on the side,so m-atx fits neatly,and SLi/Xfire is an option..and you're onto a clear winner..
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post #14 of 1303
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Originally Posted by AlphaC View Post

* quiet 120mm/140mm fans that push air (SP120 Quiet edition or AF140 Quiet edition)

* SFF powerhouse : smallest size possible without sacrificing thermals (BitFenix Prodigy without the extra handles) ... basically SFF monster machines for LAN parties
  • should fit GTX 670 or HD 7950 or any other single GPU
  • Carbide Series but ITX size , with compatibility with H100i? or at least 160mm air coolers (akin to Bitfenix Prodigy which can fit Phanteks' twin tower)
  • Handle for transport akin to Corsair C70 or maybe like the Lian-Li PC-TU200 (which supports 11.8" long GPUs)
  • Probably will need to accommodate full size PSU due to high end CPUs needing more power
  • Needs to be reasonably priced for the amount of metal going in it (This is the main reason why the BItfenix Prodigy is popular)... $80 USD would be nice price point.
  • for enthusiasts/Overclocking , thermals are paramount
  • Needs to vent GPU outside, because all aftermarket coolers except EVGA (blower) use axial fans
  • USB 3.0 front panel ports
  • Sub $100
  • Compatibility with Corsair AX/HX series PSUs


* HTPC: an ITX box with noise dampening gaskets (Silverstone SUGO series SG-05 /SG-06 / SG-08) ... basically HTPC machines that don't need to be moved often...should fit HTPC style gpu like HD7750 or GT 640 (if not, you're relegated to AMD FM2 socket), vent out the side
  • quietness and discreet appearance a priority here (no LEDs)
  • Obsidian series in ITX size , with Corsair H55 compatibility
  • Sleek Silverstone SUGO SG-06 look , but with powdercoated rear exterior ... keeping in mind SG05/ SG06 supports 9.5" long GPU ; SG-08 up to 12.2 inches and 400W ; Lian LI PC-Q03 supports up to ~7" long
  • Address SG-06 issue where "On SG06 the two USB ports are too close to each other, preventing you from install two “fat” USB devices at the same time. This problem does not happen with SG05, where the two ports are located far away from each other."
  • Can accomodate only Slim Optical drives to make it smaller? (This shouldn't be an issue)
  • Should fit Noctua low profile, NH-C14 (105 mm height) , NH-L12 (93 mm height) or Phanteks PH-TC14CS Series (112mm height without top fan) .. Silverstone's SG-08 supports up to 117mm
  • Really need a SFX PSU to make this great
  • USB 3.0 front panel , 2.5" hard drive bays (not 3.5")
  • Should fit in a backpack
  • Sub $160 if including a 300-600W PSU, otherwise sub $90

Check Compatibility before releasing:
Asus P8Z77-I Deluxe (very popular due to the VRM)
Gigabyte Z77N-WIFI (need to appease the Customac Mini crowd)
ASRock Z77E-ITX
MSI Z77IA-E53
ASRock FM2A75M-ITX FM2 (AMD's bang for buck board)

Really Corsair needs to mimic Silverstone and release a decent SFX PSU with modular cables (ST45SF-G) for the former, performance minded ITX box. Only other SFXX PSU I can think of is Seasonic's SS-350SFE (350W nonmodular). There's money to be made in ITX when the competition is sparse!
--> Power requirements should be around 500W since you cannot Crossfire/SLI on ITX

*** Will get bonus points for including a Phillips screwdriver head like the Noctua NH-D14 , if there are any phillips screws

Pretty much this. An ITX case + modular SFX PSU is a must for people who want a Shuttle-sized system. A slightly bigger case with full size ATX PSU support would be perfect for those who want a powerful gaming rig. Both should accommodate Corsair's existing water coolers, but will work well with air cooling too.

I'd also like to see a thin mini-ITX case like the one that silverstone showed at CES.
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post #15 of 1303
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amdcat View Post

The sleek aluminum look screams premium so you guys should go that route. As for size I want this to be really small- competing with Silverstone's sugo series to cater to people that want either an htpc or have a high end system.

Also, why no love for mATX people?!?!

Who said we don't love Micro ATX people?


I posted a thread about that last year.
post #16 of 1303
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Originally Posted by MightyMission View Post

Rework the prodigy design with old fashioned seperates hi-fi type feet instead of the big rounded things top and bottom,then have the motherboard standoffs on the side,so m-atx fits neatly,and SLi/Xfire is an option..and you're onto a clear winner..

it's an itx case, why bother fitting micro-atx? We have the Carbide 200R, Silverstone SST-SG04B-FH, SST‑PS07B, SG-03, SG-09 and TJ08B-E, Fractal Design Arc Mini, Fractal Design Define Mini, Fractal Design Core 1000, Lian LI PC-V600F ,PC-A04, NZXT Vulcan (fugly), among other cases (Thermaltake Armor A30 for one).

ITX doesn't support Xfire/SLI... Hybrid crossfire on FM2 though

It's in Corsair's best interest to go into a market not already populated.
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'Bout time. wink.gif

Looks like most think smallest possible allowing high-performance components is the way to go. I totally agree... MITX gamers will replace full towers eventually IMO. Hardware performance is already there so why not embrace it & get the most bang per liter possible?

Are you working on a lineup or just a single case? I think it's going to be tough to build something small that suits everyone, but if you can do something like Silverstone's SG05/6/7/8/9 you can build in varying degrees of size and component accommodation. IE, allow ATX PSUs, ODDs and room for 3.5" drives into the larger variants, but toss them for the smallest sizes. Otherwise you're going to end up with a giant case that few ppl want. I realize I say that in spite of how popular the Prodigy is. tongue.gif

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Size isn't a huge issue for me, i'm mainly looking at the ability to make something sleek that would go under the television. I'd like the ability to fit a full size gpu up to 8-9 inches, full size PSU, and decent cooling. I'm not to fussed about rad space, this is a mini ITX case after all, but you guys love to surprise us. My personal setup would be mini itx+Noctua NH-L12 or H55 if you supported it, GTX560 or a short GPU, corsair HX650, for a makeshift 'steam box' media centre.

Something that looks like a 900D but miniature would be absolutely perfect. Maybe this is stretching it, but the ability to position it vertical or horizontal and it still look 'right', a bit like the first gen xbox 360, where the console is made to look proper in both orientations.
post #19 of 1303
What pretty much everyone said here but without 5.25 drive bays also a window.
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post #20 of 1303
See this:









Now remove the front LCD to make it more affordable.

The top window should be an option.

Be sure to have a full size power supply with shorter cables available to make cable management simpler.

Make it integrate well with your AIO coolers.

An IR receiver built in would be a nice touch.

Keep the front panel very clean, no ugly USB and SD card ports all over it. One ODD is plenty.

Price it $150 or less, and you'll have THE go to case for HTPC gaming!
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