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Poll Results: Which features are most important to you in a Mini ITX case?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 7% of voters (92)
    Size - the smaller the better. I don't need a full GPU, I want a HTPC-style box.
  • 77% of voters (1009)
    Size - I want it to be small, but I want a full size GPU and full size PSU in there.
  • 11% of voters (154)
    Air cooling - I want lots of fan options, top, sides, back, front.
  • 31% of voters (411)
    Air cooling - I want it to perform well out of the box but we don't need to perforate every single panel.
  • 25% of voters (329)
    "Sleek, Modern" Design - The BitFenix Prodiigy, NZXT Phantom Series, Corsair 600T and other cases with unique designs are my favorite.
  • 49% of voters (646)
    "Refined, Aluminum" Design - Silverstone, Lian-Li, and Corsair Obsidian Series are more my speed.
  • 34% of voters (454)
    Quiet - I want this thing whisper quiet.
  • 45% of voters (596)
    Liquid Cooling - it'd be nice to be able to fit a 240mm radiator in this thing
  • 7% of voters (97)
    HDD Capacity - I want to make a RAID or NAS box, so I want at least four 3.5" drive bays
  • 36% of voters (477)
    HDD Capacity - I just plan on running an OS and a storage drive - two or three drive bays is fine as long as there's native SSD support.
  • 18% of voters (246)
    Portability - handles and whatnot are really important to me. So is overall weight and durability.
  • 19% of voters (255)
    Scent - I like all my computer products to be scratch and sniff. Please make this smell like Lilacs.
  • 2% of voters (32)
    Other - posted in thread.
1308 Total Votes  
post #121 of 1303
lol mini ITX 800D the 80D XD.

Also INB4 you guys ask for an mATX board with multi gpu support but also in the cubic SSF size.
post #122 of 1303
I don't think there's a need to try to out-radiator and out-size the BitFenix Prodigy. Likewise, Silverstone's got the small-sized breadbox down with the SG05 and SG06 (SG07 and SG08 if you need to fit larger graphics cards); no need for a clone there either. Cooler Master Elite 120 Advanced already covers the low-budget market. Fractal Design Node 304 can already be a good NAS and more with six 3.5" hard drive mounts and a more discreet styling.

Too much flexibility, options, size (consequently, price) are a problem with a lot of cases in the market.


I think you can get away with removing 5.25" bays altogether and probably cutting down on 3.5" internal bays and/or moving them to a different location (not taking up space behind front intake and blocking the graphics card). As a trend, 5.25" bays are going the way of the dinosaur, as optical media diminishes in importance and people can use external drives anyway. These days, 3.5" hard drives run cooler, and people often use a separate SSD for most accesses anyway, so they don't need direct airflow from a front intake. 35-43C temps or so are optimal on a hard drive anyway.

Because of cost and motherboard complexity and layout concerns, most miniITX designs will probably still have the CPU socket close to the PCIe slot; thus, having space above the CPU socket for a large tower cooler is mostly a waste as they wouldn't fit in the proper orientation anyway. Corsair's strength is in selling their H80s and so on, anyway—despite their price and performance, even to people using large tower cases with room for air coolers.

All of Corsair's designs right now are rather boring. I want to see something more innovative here, something that breaks free from ATX traditions and offers a layout that makes sense in the world of modern DIY computing.
post #123 of 1303
Size is really important (If you are doing a ITX build, why get a big case???) but how the space is used is key. It would be most beneficial if the case was reconfigurable depending on how you are going to use it (an example being having a removable HDD bay to get more air flow if you are not using the system as a server).

It just seems to me like ITX cases geared toward gamers have too much wasted space and smaller ITX cases need some modification not intended by the manufacturer to be really useful to gamers.
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post #124 of 1303
Size
noise
good cooling
modifikation

This is very important for me.
I dont own a ITX build but I´m sure I will look into one in the next months.

Small size is nice but I want use normal Gpus and PSU´s here. Better a little bit bigger and more compatiblity!
The noise depends more on the quaility from a fan than from a Case in my opinion. Maybe Coisair could add a little fan controller?
The best ITX Case in my opinion is the Bitfenix prodigy. So much possible with this case.
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post #125 of 1303
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandora51 View Post

The best ITX Case in my opinion is the Bitfenix prodigy. So much possible with this case.

So much is possible because it is the size of an matx case. It is far too large to be considered a real mini itx case in my opinion.
 
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post #126 of 1303
Quote:
Originally Posted by HPE1000 View Post

So much is possible because it is the size of an matx case. It is far too large to be considered a real mini itx case in my opinion.

It's an ITX case that is large to do a full custom water cooling loop without having to mod. I don't think they had any intentions on trying to make it really small.
post #127 of 1303
Quote:
Originally Posted by eqwoody View Post

It's an ITX case that is large to do a full custom water cooling loop without having to mod. I don't think they had any intentions on trying to make it really small.
Yes it can be watercooled, but still it's too large for that. They have an optical drive slot, space for ~5 desktop hdds, and a full size psu.

Mini itx should have some compromises, what they made was far too large. The majority of prodigy owners dont even use watercooling, and they praise mini itx, which gets to me.

I have always said, the prodigy is fine, IF you are doing a full loop in it, with 360mm+ of rad space inside of it.

For the same size, or slightly bigger, you can get a matx case and mobo, get more pcie slots, more sata ports, more ram slots, etc... and have better watercooling support...
 
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post #128 of 1303
If I remember the TJ08E is smaller than the prodigy and people do crazy loops and builds in those.

The point of mini itx is to have the smallest possible computer.
 
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post #129 of 1303
Quote:
Originally Posted by HPE1000 View Post

If I remember the TJ08E is smaller than the prodigy and people do crazy loops and builds in those.

The point of mini itx is to have the smallest possible computer.

You're counting the handle and the feet of the prodigy, if you took those off it would not be bigger. If you don't like the Prodigy then don't buy one. Doesn't make it any less of a great case for ITX enthusiast. There's a reason it's the most popular ITX case on the market right now. But those people who own them must be wrong because you don't like it.
post #130 of 1303
Butcher it up so you can say it's smaller. I dont care, I am just saying, a lot of the mini itx people with small cases despise the prodigy for the fact of it being so massive.

The people who have been using mini itx since before the prodigy came out dont like it, the prodigy did bring more people over to mini itx, so I guess that is a good thing for us in the way that they will make more mini itx motherboards.
 
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