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Poll Results: Which features are most important to you in a Mini ITX case?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 7% of voters (92)
    Size - the smaller the better. I don't need a full GPU, I want a HTPC-style box.
  • 77% of voters (1009)
    Size - I want it to be small, but I want a full size GPU and full size PSU in there.
  • 11% of voters (154)
    Air cooling - I want lots of fan options, top, sides, back, front.
  • 31% of voters (411)
    Air cooling - I want it to perform well out of the box but we don't need to perforate every single panel.
  • 25% of voters (329)
    "Sleek, Modern" Design - The BitFenix Prodiigy, NZXT Phantom Series, Corsair 600T and other cases with unique designs are my favorite.
  • 49% of voters (646)
    "Refined, Aluminum" Design - Silverstone, Lian-Li, and Corsair Obsidian Series are more my speed.
  • 34% of voters (454)
    Quiet - I want this thing whisper quiet.
  • 45% of voters (596)
    Liquid Cooling - it'd be nice to be able to fit a 240mm radiator in this thing
  • 7% of voters (97)
    HDD Capacity - I want to make a RAID or NAS box, so I want at least four 3.5" drive bays
  • 36% of voters (477)
    HDD Capacity - I just plan on running an OS and a storage drive - two or three drive bays is fine as long as there's native SSD support.
  • 18% of voters (246)
    Portability - handles and whatnot are really important to me. So is overall weight and durability.
  • 19% of voters (255)
    Scent - I like all my computer products to be scratch and sniff. Please make this smell like Lilacs.
  • 2% of voters (32)
    Other - posted in thread.
1308 Total Votes  
post #1201 of 1303
If that ever becomes an ITX case, I am buying it on day 1!
post #1202 of 1303
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Originally Posted by DocBach View Post

Please please please make a C70 inspired itx case that is reminiscent of an M80 ammo can:



make it hadron sized but make it olive drab!

Put some carrying strap points on that too
post #1203 of 1303
What color Power and HDD LED does the 250D have?
post #1204 of 1303
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

I'm lost. It incorporates all the features of the top votes.

The top 3 votes-
1- Size - I want it to be small, but I want a full size GPU and full size PSU in there.
2- "Refined, Aluminum" Design - Silverstone, Lian-Li, and Corsair Obsidian Series are more my speed.
3- Liquid Cooling - it'd be nice to be able to fit a 240mm radiator in this thing

I think it's the 3rd that caused this thing to be so large, still, it didn't need to be as big as it is to meet the 3. Look at the Ncase, if you made that just a tiny bit wider, and shorten it to only fit a 2 slot GPU, you'd barely make it larger than it is now, and still meet the top 3 votes.
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post #1205 of 1303
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Originally Posted by ryboto View Post

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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

I'm lost. It incorporates all the features of the top votes.

The top 3 votes-
1- Size - I want it to be small, but I want a full size GPU and full size PSU in there.
2- "Refined, Aluminum" Design - Silverstone, Lian-Li, and Corsair Obsidian Series are more my speed.
3- Liquid Cooling - it'd be nice to be able to fit a 240mm radiator in this thing

I think it's the 3rd that caused this thing to be so large, still, it didn't need to be as big as it is to meet the 3. Look at the Ncase, if you made that just a tiny bit wider, and shorten it to only fit a 2 slot GPU, you'd barely make it larger than it is now, and still meet the top 3 votes.

Exactly. Size was the top vote by a pretty big margin so I'm not sure what George is talking about. the Ncase did it.. Evga did it.. Corsair decided to create an already flooded design..

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post #1206 of 1303
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Originally Posted by ryboto View Post

Look at the Ncase, if you made that just a tiny bit wider, and shorten it to only fit a 2 slot GPU, you'd barely make it larger than it is now, and still meet the top 3 votes.
But then you couldn't have a window (rad sits in the way). They'd be losing their core market if they lost the window.
post #1207 of 1303
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But then you couldn't have a window (rad sits in the way). They'd be losing their core market if they lost the window.
Well don't I feel stupid now!
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post #1208 of 1303
We can all get our say by voting with our $s. With that said, the NCase is a pretty awesome design and I can see Corsair doing something simmilar, just not this time.

People keep asking why create an already "flooded" design? Well, because in actuality it's not flooded and there is still plenty of market to capture...mITX is going up before it goes down. Without a mainstream mITX design they are losing $ to other mainstream designs so they are out to increase market share in segment they currently have 0% share of. At least, that's one way to look at it.
post #1209 of 1303
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But then you couldn't have a window (rad sits in the way). They'd be losing their core market if they lost the window.

but if the rad is visible through a non-restrictive side grate, that's fun to look at, too.

All of my builds used to be window builds (aside from HTPC builds). my first build was a PPC G3 in a koolance PC3-901 (chenming), which was monstrously huge. I like the look of my PC-Z60 better without a windows than I would with. the exterior is so well finished, and I know what's inside (and the rad/res/controlpanel shroud sticking out of the top isn't exactly subtle)...


From a market standpoint, the 250D makes sense. Corsair wanting in on the action is understandable, and since they have improved on it (as they say they have, and I have no reason to doubt them), then they're offering a superior product. What's not to like?

But the fact remains that there is a market for something "super tiny" like the M1, because the M1 didn't exist until the market went and crowdfunded it itself. That's not quite as ridiculous as a crowdfunded "trashcan" mac pro would be (lol).
 
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post #1210 of 1303
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Originally Posted by CorsairGeorge View Post

I'm confused, how do you feel?

Look, let me be perfectly clear on something before we go too far down this path:

This case is our first Mini ITX case and was never intended to be the smallest design.


I made that clear a number of times over the last year. It was designed to fit the requirements here - to make an easy transition from somebody who normally builds a mid tower and may want to downsize. Don't have to worry about nearly impossible cable routing, poor cooling, poor GPU compatibility, poor HDD layout, etc. It was designed to be an Obsidian series, which have NEVER been the most compact cases, and are all about design flexibility.

So when half of you guys think it's too big, that's great! We cannot possibly make something that makes everybody happy. Go buy something smaller. There are options. In a while we'll release more and more Mini ITX products and maybe you'll like one of them.

But I'll give you a hint - the 2nd Mini ITX case we're going to launch is even going to be slightly larger than this one, so get your pitchforks and torches ready.

I'm not ignoring the ultra small form factor (<20L/<15L) sizes, I just decided not to do them first. They're out there, and they'll be around sometime. But for now, most Mini ITX buyers aren't buying the <15L cases so we have to base our first products at a mass market.

You guys may hate the Prodigy, but it's a great case and a resounding success for Mini ITX. The BitFenix guys hit a great combination of features and size and it's evident by their tremendous success. So rage against it all you want, but that's the most popular Mini ITX case in the world and there's a reason - it's small but not so small as to be annoying and difficult to build and tough to select parts for.

The 250D addresses our main complaints with the Prodigy, such as some of the form factor options and installation locations and whatnot. It's significantly smaller. It offers easier building and cable routing. So that was our goal: design a product that lots of people will like.

So for you guys who hate it - that's cool, I totally get it. Please feel free to buy a Hadron or NCASE M1 or SG05 or whatever. No hard feelings here, I knew you guys weren't my audience for this one. Sorry if you're disappointed we didn't address every concern from every customer, but how about a little respect here?
Okay,first off,let me apologize if I came off disrespectful. I appreciate what you guys do,and 600T is one of my all time favorites.
Now, CM Rep asked us,"How do you justify the loss of performance coming from ATX to ITX? " and I said " by sheer space savings" Long story short they're still making a 27L ITX.
Here's the problem with that. Two people show at a LAN,one with a prodigy,lugging it by the handles,another with a SG10 in a sugopack. The prodigy is obviously nicer looking and "bigger" until the tournament starts and he gets mopped by the guy with a 780 SLI.
I don't hate your case,I just feel it is off. Why would I buy it over a CM 130,or Node 304? I can also get the Aerocool DS, in gold too,at the same price with the same layout but mATX. If I really wanted it under my TV I'd be looking at cutting height with a HTPC like Grandia or a stylish LianLi. I actually hope at some point the popularity contest ends,and you make an SFF case.
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