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Poll Results: Which features are most important to you in a Mini ITX case?

This is a multiple choice poll
  • 7% of voters (92)
    Size - the smaller the better. I don't need a full GPU, I want a HTPC-style box.
  • 77% of voters (1009)
    Size - I want it to be small, but I want a full size GPU and full size PSU in there.
  • 11% of voters (154)
    Air cooling - I want lots of fan options, top, sides, back, front.
  • 31% of voters (411)
    Air cooling - I want it to perform well out of the box but we don't need to perforate every single panel.
  • 25% of voters (329)
    "Sleek, Modern" Design - The BitFenix Prodiigy, NZXT Phantom Series, Corsair 600T and other cases with unique designs are my favorite.
  • 49% of voters (646)
    "Refined, Aluminum" Design - Silverstone, Lian-Li, and Corsair Obsidian Series are more my speed.
  • 34% of voters (454)
    Quiet - I want this thing whisper quiet.
  • 45% of voters (596)
    Liquid Cooling - it'd be nice to be able to fit a 240mm radiator in this thing
  • 7% of voters (97)
    HDD Capacity - I want to make a RAID or NAS box, so I want at least four 3.5" drive bays
  • 36% of voters (477)
    HDD Capacity - I just plan on running an OS and a storage drive - two or three drive bays is fine as long as there's native SSD support.
  • 18% of voters (246)
    Portability - handles and whatnot are really important to me. So is overall weight and durability.
  • 19% of voters (255)
    Scent - I like all my computer products to be scratch and sniff. Please make this smell like Lilacs.
  • 2% of voters (32)
    Other - posted in thread.
1308 Total Votes  
post #221 of 1303
I'm not sure if it has been mentioned already, but built-in support for Corsair radiators OUTSIDE the case would be fantastic, and great at saving space. Many cases come with grommted holes directly above the exhaust 120/140mm fan mounts for externally mounting a radiator, but that won't work with closed-loop cooling systems because the tubes are not detachable, and hence cannot be pushed through the tubing holes. I would suggest extending these tube holes to the top of the case and leaving them open on the top, and have the top of the case be removable, so it is possible to just 'slide in' a closed-loop cooler through the channel to mount the radiator outside of the case and the pump block inside without having to detach the tubes.

My 'dream' mini-ITX case is fairly similar to the crowdfunded NCASE M1 featured on Hardforum, but smaller and with the silencing characteristics of Fractal Design's tower cases with a blow-through air design. A single externally-mounted H60 for the CPU (using the extended grommet hole suggestion) outside the 1x120mm exhaust fan slot, space for a single SSD mount (possibilty behind the motherboard to save room), room for a dual-slot GPU cooler with its own intake vent (like the Sugo series, or Bitfenix Prodigy), 1x120m intake fan, honeycomb dust filter for the intake. Oh, and a handle on top for easy portability!

While I do like the NCASE M1, I think a lot of concessions they made for watercooling support were excessive.

Edit: Oh, and no optical drive support! I think an optical drive on a mini-ITX is the silliest thing ever.
Edited by Lurikrunch - 3/28/13 at 11:04am
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I understand your viewpoint, but from a business perspective it wouldn't make sense for me to just cede the market to BitFenix for large Mini ITX. After all, it's by far the best selling Mini ITX case of all time - obviously some people like it. And it's not perfect - we could make a case with similar features that's better.


Using that same logic, there's already a ton of Silverstone, Lian-Li, Cooler Master, Antec, etc, Mini ITX cases that are very small. I'm not ready to cede that market yet, either.

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Ok, in all seriousness, Corsair comes out with great products and I can only say this one major point.. Make a case that knows what it is. You can see 3 major generalizations in this thread, people who want 1) a true HTPC, quiet, storage capacity and low performance. 2) HTPC with mild gaming, on air. 3) Gaming pc in very small case with watercooling support. Don't try to make a static case for all 3, because the trade offs to make each one, will piss off both of the other 2.

I built my most recent machine in a prodigy because I liked the aescetics, and I knew with tradeoffs I would have tons of space unused and unnecessary in the case. My next rig will be a true mITX case with sleek ascetics a la Lian Li with very limited additional space. If you really want to wow the people come up with a way to add space to a case where all three major scenarios can be configured without stepping on the toes of the others. Build a case that can expand, where you can add entire sections of space to the case and make configurations for the 3 archetypes based on how the case is set up.
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The voting poll here has small size being the most important thing out of a MITX case, and you want to build a larger case like the Prodigy? I think this is a big mistake. If I wanted a Prodigy sized ITX case I would just buy a MATX case that's the same size with the same features. People buy MITX because they want small portable gaming power or something nice for their media center that is unobtrusive.
post #224 of 1303
Maybe I was unclear, I want a very small case. If they want to be able to market it to others make the case expandable and add the hardware to configure the additional bays / full configurations to the kit. Start out small, tack on more space.

Regardless, what would really be best is 3 cases that each do the best for the role they want to play.
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The voting poll here has small size being the most important thing out of a MITX case, and you want to build a larger case like the Prodigy? I think this is a big mistake. If I wanted a Prodigy sized ITX case I would just buy a MATX case that's the same size with the same features. People buy MITX because they want small portable gaming power or something nice for their media center that is unobtrusive.

For most, apparently, prodigy is small enough.

I wouldn't doubt that the market that the prodigy is in is the biggest of the itx markets. Trying to compete with the prodigy would be a great move.
This might sound oversimplified but trying to do a layout that can offer more or same features than prodigy but with a smaller footprint would be the way to go imo smile.gif
post #226 of 1303
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I wouldn't doubt that the market that the prodigy is in is the biggest of the itx markets.
Should have been an mATX case. Now that would be a beast.
post #227 of 1303
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Should have been an mATX case. Now that would be a beast.

Agreed, the fact that it's a giant ass MITX case does not excite me.
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Agreed, the fact that it's a giant ass MITX case does not excite me.
Wait, you have previously disagreed with me on mitx cases being too large, the prodigy specifically, opinions change?
 
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Wait, you have previously disagreed with me on mitx cases being too large, the prodigy specifically, opinions change?

No I like the prodigy for people who want to do a huge water cooling build with loads of rads. But personally I don't have a use for that and would want something smaller. I'm having a small case made by dwood right now, but you'll see a post on that.
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George I understand the position on going after the Prodigy but I think you can do that without having to go so big. The Prodigy is a good case but it has a number of design flaws as well. Do not get us all started on the whole handle mess. Having handles is great but give us the option to remove them and the case not look like it was hacked.

I think you can make a case bigger than a Lian li but smaller than a Prodigy and make it work with good cooling options. The biggest size consideration factor, other than the choice to allow a 240mm radiation is the size of the video card you can fit, give us the option to use a serious gaming card and not feel like we need to bend the case and make it fit.

I would serious look at dropping 3.5" HD support and doing nothing but 2.5". If you can make it fit 4 (about the number of drives a typical ITX motherboard supports, then you would be in good shape.

Also do not stop at the case, make a PSU designed for the case. Give it short modular cables that will be easy to route and size the PSU body to allow it to work perfectly within the case design.
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