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Just got a 7950 last week, I have tried it in Metro 2033, Sleeping Dogs (with high res textures dlc), and Far Cry 3, and it maxes them all out for my setup, 60hz/1080p monitor. Using a q6600 at 3.2, and only seeing a slight bottleneck in FC3. Fps never dips below 40, using dynamic vsync, and smaa at ultra with radeonpro.

I dipped in to 40ish when running a single card setup in Far Cry 3 with EVERYTHING maxed out, I doubt you can do that, let alone max out Metro2033 which is pretty much impossible for a single card right now.
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I dipped in to 40ish when running a single card setup in Far Cry 3 with EVERYTHING maxed out, I doubt you can do that, let alone max out Metro2033 which is pretty much impossible for a single card right now.
To elaborate, when I said I'm using SMAA in Radeonpro, I meant I also have the AA options disabled in the games. I was posting on my phone, so yeah, I was intending to edit in some more details when I got home. Also, my 7950 is at stock 900mhz.

I rechecked my FC3, and it's running on very high, not ultra, so my mistake. Again, AA options disabled, injecting SMAA from Radeopro. MSAA drops me ~30 fps or something ridiculous, whereas SMAA drops me around 5, with no visual differences that I can see. I'm also sitting at an awkward 50-55 fps with usage somewhere around 70%, because of my cpu bottleneck, with drops to around 40 fps. This is in DX11.

Same thing with Metro, MSAA disabled, using SMAA, highest preset. Fps is better in Metro than FC3 because I don't get a bottleneck, sits more at 50+ with occasional dips into the 40s.
Edited by starships - 1/23/13 at 5:13pm
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How much does the graphic cards memory interface play into your max settings? Can you still play maxed out with a 192 bit card or do you need more? Is the performance that much greater with a higher bit card?
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How much does the graphic cards memory interface play into your max settings? Can you still play maxed out with a 192 bit card or do you need more? Is the performance that much greater with a higher bit card?
It all depends on the resolution, at higher resolutions a 192-bit memory bus would cause a bottleneck.
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Does each PCI slot type (2.0, 3.0) support all memory interfaces? I guess what I'm asking is if there can be any incompatibilities if i were to upgrade from 256 bit card to a 384 bit card?
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OP, no offense but it sounds like you no absolutely nothing about graphics cards. It sounds like you just want the best gaming experience possible without learning much about the technical side. Well let me tell you something, a $5,000 computer isn't going to perform any better than a $500 computer if the parts don't' go well together and everything isn't fine tuned correctly.

If you wanna play games on max settings, it's more than just a graphics card. Your CPU has a vital role, even an i7 can bottleneck a great graphics card setup if it's not overclocked to it's full potential. This cost you 5-10 frames in games. You need to have good RAM with tight timings, properly configured RAM will gain on 2-5 frames, possibly more. Your motherboard, overclocking things like the Northbridge frequency will make everything function just a little faster. Lastly a hard drive, a SSD is the way to go, a primary hard drive has alot more to do with gaming than just initial loading that can drastically bottleneck a system...

Now for the graphics, if you want "the best", you need a few things:
  • High memory bandwidth, Radeon dominates here with 384 bit reference graphics cards, this will help push higher end graphical settings like AA and filters
  • Not a huge thing but motherboards with PCI Express 3.0 have higher bandwidth for the newer 3.0 graphics cards
  • High memory, yes I hugely recommend going for a 3GB graphics card if you can, games like Crysis 3 beta are already killing older graphics cards because using post processing and AA is costing 2+ GB of VRAM even without adding a second or third monitor! Higher resolution textures also cost bandwidth

OP, I recommend you go for either a Radeon 7950 or a GTX 670 if you can afford it. They are about the same, overclocked the radeon is cheaper and on par with the 670. Personally I think spending any more than $400 on graphics is just ridiculous because number one, it's just a computer, are you really going to burn your money on it? And number two, graphics card get outdated extremely fast - a few years from now you will see 670's on ebay for under $200.
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Yeah I'm really trying to get into the technical side of things here. As of now i really don't know much about graphic card architecture so i definitely appreciate the post! I've been looking at these 3GB 384 bit cards that you mentioned and just wanted to make damn sure it would work with my system before i dropped $500. Any brand you prefer or prefer to stay away from?
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Any late ~$200 range CPU (Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/FX AMDs) with a GTX 670, 680, 7950, or 7970 will max out pretty much any game out today at 1080p, with higher resolutions like 2560x1440 requiring the higher end cards (680 or 7970) or multiple cards. All in all with a nice round $1,000 budget you can have a really strong gaming build (monitor/accessories/software not included, just case with internal hardware). Got good credit? Finance it on Newegg/Amazon, they both offer 12 month financing with 0 interest. That's what I usually do when I'm ready for a full hardware upgrade. $1,200/12 months = $100 per month, that's hardly more than your average smartphone plan with data nowadays.

Here's a list I actually have going for a friend that's working on a build. It's just below $1,000, or just above $1,000 if you want a good ~$100 SSD (highly recommended).

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18983531

Before any of OCN's finest obnoxious members rank on the FX4170: it runs on par with pretty much every other Intel/AMD CPU as far as gaming goes.


Edited by Stealth Pyros - 2/4/13 at 12:36pm
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I'll begin! biggrin.gif

Right now, AMD is better value for money than NVidia, HD7970 is cheaper than GTX670 and better than a GTX680.
^ Agreed.

And you need i5 3570k or i7 3770k to get the most fps out of your GPU.
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Any late ~$200 range CPU (Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge/FX AMDs) with a GTX 670, 680, 7950, or 7970 will max out pretty much any game out today at 1080p, with higher resolutions like 2560x1440 requiring the higher end cards (680 or 7970) or multiple cards. All in all with a nice round $1,000 budget you can have a really strong gaming build (monitor/accessories/software not included, just case with internal hardware). Got good credit? Finance it on Newegg/Amazon, they both offer 12 month financing with 0 interest. That's what I usually do when I'm ready for a full hardware upgrade. $1,200/12 months = $100 per month, that's hardly more than your average smartphone plan with data nowadays.

Here's a list I actually have going for a friend that's working on a build. It's just below $1,000, or just above $1,000 if you want a good ~$100 SSD (highly recommended).

http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=18983531

Before any of OCN's finest obnoxious members rank on the FX4170: it runs on par with pretty much every other Intel/AMD CPU as far as gaming goes.

Thats BF3. Try starcraft 2, skyrim and you will see amd processor falls down the chart.
Edited by chropose - 2/5/13 at 8:42am
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