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Yeah, in the half dozen times I've applied each, the temps were the same in the first hour as they are three days later.
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Yeah, in the half dozen times I've applied each, the temps were the same in the first hour as they are three days later.

Same here. He simply went through the manual without having any experience of his own or realizing that the he's reading a badly translated version thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
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Same here. He simply went through the manual without having any experience of his own or realizing that the he's reading a badly translated version thumbsdownsmileyanim.gif
I did not post to argue with you or make you look like you are inexperienced, and I do think you deserve credit for taking the time to test the Ultra and Pro TIMs and for posting your results - the information it provides to other members is what OCN is all about in the end.

But you need to ease up on the tone of your replies mate, it's uncalled for.

I was simply agreeing with some of the earlier posts that Pro performed marginally better for me and in no way was trying to discredit you in any way. If you actually read my post again, you'll see we share similar findings about usage of both products anyway.

To take feedback from other OCN members, especially thopse who use the same product you have tested, will only make you better at testing products and providing useful results to OCN members in future.
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stickg1, just get some hypodermic insulin syringes from anywhere (a lot of pharmacies sell single syringes). On .5ml sticks (not the 1ml sticks), you can pull off the needle tip.

Then simply put that on the tip of your liquid ultra.

Or, couldn't you take the cap off the pro and put it on the ultra (if it does come off)?

I knew that 80+ w/mk for pro was bs! I do think un-nerfer raises valid questions tw33k but that you are willing to do more tests show you are go above and beyond. Maybe pro or ultra is 1-2*C better but I think you've proven already that there's little real world difference between the two.
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I did not post to argue with you or make you look like you are inexperienced, and I do think you deserve credit for taking the time to test the Ultra and Pro TIMs and for posting your results - the information it provides to other members is what OCN is all about in the end.

But you need to ease up on the tone of your replies mate, it's uncalled for.

I was simply agreeing with some of the earlier posts that Pro performed marginally better for me and in no way was trying to discredit you in any way. If you actually read my post again, you'll see we share similar findings about usage of both products anyway.

To take feedback from other OCN members, especially thopse who use the same product you have tested, will only make you better at testing products and providing useful results to OCN members in future.

If my posts offended you then I'm sorry. That was not my intention at all. I've been frustrated by people making claims without posting any evidence what-so-ever. It's like they say "Pro is better" simply because that's the one they used. They claim to have used both but yet post no results. I've always been of the opinion that Ultra would be equal or better (if only marginally) because what kind of company would release an inferior product but call it "Ultra" I don't believe anything without some kind of evidence (like, for example the ridiculous claim that Liquid Pro was rated at 82w/mk) and if I can I want to see for myself.
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^ Yea i completely agree. 82w/mk sounds like bs, and yea the same thing about why would a company release an update that is inferior (it's happened before... but it's still weird).

It's not like Liquid Ultra is Ceramique 2 vs AS5, ultra is supposed to be a straight up update to pro. Most TIMs these days are moving less towards performance, and more towards ease of use - less thermal conductivity, less corrosive, easier to spread, less viscous, cheaper, etc, but they make sure to at least keep the same thermal properties as their predecessors (ie pk-2 is no better than pk-1 but it's one of the easiest pastes out there to work with, and then pk-3 is harder to work with but much better than both).

w/mk is don't think is everything when it comes to thermal pastes, either. Maybe I'm wrong on that, but I would think other things affect cooling properites (i mean granite has the best w/mk but you don't see granite pastes for a reason), and then some stuff might cool worse but just make a better connection or some other desirable property (ie nickel isnt as good as copper, barely, but it's many times more durable, hence why all heatsinks are nickel plated copper instead of copper, i mean you'll never see a true 120 copper type of heatsink again).

I'd love to see you retest with the higher overclocks. I mean it's near impossible to use too little thermal paste, I think especially when it comes to spread method, people use too much paste, think they have to cover everything or have a layer on there. You should be able to see through the paste (maybe liquids are different, but with spreading ceramiques that's the idea at least).
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I'd love to see you retest with the higher overclocks. I mean it's near impossible to use too little thermal paste, I think especially when it comes to spread method, people use too much paste, think they have to cover everything or have a layer on there. You should be able to see through the paste (maybe liquids are different, but with spreading ceramiques that's the idea at least).

I mentioned in an earlier post that I'm going to run the 5GHz test with Ultra again because I used too much. I knew it at the time but it was late and I just wanted to get it done. I've got 3x Ultra and 3x Pro being shipped now so I can do a lot more. I just wish I had the room to set up a proper test bench. It's a pain unplugging everything from my case, changing the compound and plugging everything back in. Makes life hard and I sometimes rush things because it's taken too long.
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I mentioned in an earlier post that I'm going to run the 5GHz test with Ultra again because I used too much. I knew it at the time but it was late and I just wanted to get it done. I've got 3x Ultra and 3x Pro being shipped now so I can do a lot more. I just wish I had the room to set up a proper test bench. It's a pain unplugging everything from my case, changing the compound and plugging everything back in. Makes life hard and I sometimes rush things because it's taken too long.
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Finding one is not the issue. The logistics is my problem
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Nice review. I might soon be in the market for Liquid Ultra to delid my 3770K, and this will prove invaluable.
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