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Very important to test different amounts, in my opinion.
When I used Ultra on the die, so many people said don't use too much, so I did a very thin layer. Then I tried a little more, like they show on their website and got better temps. So it is definitely possible to use too little, or too much. Thanks for looking into this.

The only problem you will have is that your amounts will not apply perfectly to everyone. After having three 3770k chips, and testing each one, I found that they all had different levels of convexity on the IHS. So while testing different amount is very important, each person will have to test slightly different amount on their system because their IHS and cooler block will not be exactly the same as yours. Not a big deal, just thought I would mention it.

No test results will "apply perfectly to everyone" but they will give people a pretty good idea as to what to expect. A while back I applied what I thought was too much Liquid Ultra but I kept it on and ran a quick test. Then I cleaned it off and used the smallest amount I could, ran another quick test and temps were worse so you're right when you say it's "definitely possible to use too little, or too much"
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So I tried this on my FX-6100 with the stock cooler from my FX-8350... The initial results were amazing! Great temps! Had it at 1.45v and was only hitting 57c!!!

After a month of use, I started noticing degradation. Then all OC attempts failed in overheating. So I decided to remove the TIM and try another cooler... This next part I nearly puked out of fear for what I had done... While trying to remove the heat sink, the TIM had FUSED the copper to my CPU heat spreader!!! I did not know this and applied a little extra elbow grease which resulted in my ripping the damn CPU from the mobo socket!!! I about cried!!! The only way to separate the heatsink from the CPU was with a chisel!!! I am so thankful I did not try this on my main rig...
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So I tried this on my FX-6100 with the stock cooler from my FX-8350... The initial results were amazing! Great temps! Had it at 1.45v and was only hitting 57c!!!

After a month of use, I started noticing degradation. Then all OC attempts failed in overheating. So I decided to remove the TIM and try another cooler... This next part I nearly puked out of fear for what I had done... While trying to remove the heat sink, the TIM had FUSED the copper to my CPU heat spreader!!! I did not know this and applied a little extra elbow grease which resulted in my ripping the damn CPU from the mobo socket!!! I about cried!!! The only way to separate the heatsink from the CPU was with a chisel!!! I am so thankful I did not try this on my main rig...
If the base was made of pure copper your IHS must've been made of aluminum causing thing to ga bad even the slightest mix of those will screw everything up.
I use phoyba LM which essentialy is the same but I apply it direct to the die with the caps transistors on the chip taped off.
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If the base was made of pure copper your IHS must've been made of aluminum causing thing to ga bad even the slightest mix of those will screw everything up.
I use phoyba LM which essentialy is the same but I apply it direct to the die with the caps transistors on the chip taped off.

Just did a quick google search to see if anyone has compared the two (Phobya LM vs CLP/CLU), nothing came up. You should add your two-cents to this thread, mate. It would be great to get more data out there on other liquid metal TIMs.

Right now I'm using CLU on the die and inside of my IHS of my delided 3570K. I'm using IC Diamond between the IHS and H220 block and my prime runs are leveling out at around 58C's.
 
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Delta temp is the average core temp minus the ambient temp. These Coolabs compounds don't pump out at all nor do the solidify.

I thought the Pro version did solidify after 6-12 months.

The ultra stayed a liquid, which is also why its easier to remove.
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My liquid pro solidified after only 1 month. And no, the was absolutely zero contact with aluminum.

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My liquid pro solidified after only 1 month. And no, the was absolutely zero contact with aluminum.
That is normal, I use CLU a lot, and it will harden between the IHS and your cooler, but not between the die and IHS. It can be removed from the die easily, but removing it from the IHS and cooler takes metal polish, a roll of paper towels, and some time.
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I did a few tests myself. When remounting a heatsink without reapplying CLU, temps go up about 4*C. I also had about a 6*C temp improvement by applying a very conservative amount of CLU on both the IHS and heatsink base (on heatsink base I literally just brushed what was left on the brush, no need to push any extra from the tube) than just on the IHS alone.
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If the base was made of pure copper your IHS must've been made of aluminum causing thing to ga bad even the slightest mix of those will screw everything up.
I use phoyba LM which essentialy is the same but I apply it direct to the die with the caps transistors on the chip taped off.

IHS are not made of aluminum, particularly AMD FX IHS.
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I just ordered all the parts for a test bench (see sig) so I can finally do more testing between these 2.
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The IHS does not remove from the FX chip. I only had it between the the fan heatsink and the CPU. If you look closely at my pic, you can see the force pulled the heat spreader off my CPU... This seems like more of a permanent solution and I will not be using it on my 8350.
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