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post #51 of 95
1/25/13 at 5:57am
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Nice review. I might soon be in the market for Liquid Ultra to delid my 3770K, and this will prove invaluable.

Glad you found it helpful
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post #52 of 95
1/30/13 at 3:08am
Very helpfull review, thanks mate, delidding stuff being ordered today. smile.gif
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post #53 of 95
1/30/13 at 9:07am
I heard from my local friend who has bought and use liquid pro, that it is a great product smile.gif got 10c better temp with the same 3rdparty cooler HSF.
I wanted to use Liquid Ultra in the future but abit afraid of staining rolleyes.gif how it would effect on procie surface at long term? Like 3 - 6months?
Thanks for this thread Tw33k smile.gif
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post #54 of 95
1/30/13 at 9:11am
i did a horrible job in applying the Coolab liquid pro on both the IHS(delidded 3570k) and the h80i. you can't mess up the application imho. my temps are still great given the very crude tim application done by me lol
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1/30/13 at 12:00pm
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Glad this has been useful to some of you.

I thought I had applied too much Liquid Ultra for my 5GHz test (in fact I was sure I did). So, I pulled it apart and applied the smallest amount I could. I ran the test @ 5GHZ again and temps were no better. In fact they were 1c warmer!

I just received 3x Liquid Ultra and 3x Liquid Pro so I will continue testing. I'll add pics showing how much compound I used.

I really wish I somewhere to put a test bench but I just don't have the space for more equipment.
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Glad this has been useful to some of you.

I thought I had applied too much Liquid Ultra for my 5GHz test (in fact I was sure I did). So, I pulled it apart and applied the smallest amount I could. I ran the test @ 5GHZ again and temps were no better. In fact they were 1c warmer!

I just received 3x Liquid Ultra and 3x Liquid Pro so I will continue testing. I'll add pics showing how much compound I used.

I really wish I somewhere to put a test bench but I just don't have the space for more equipment.

Open side panel, lay case down on its side, test bench. LOL biggrin.gifthumb.gif
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post #57 of 95
1/31/13 at 1:13am
I've used both Liquid Pro and Liquid Ultra, if anything Ultra is easier to remove, but both will force you to lap most parts to completely get rid of it. Part of the reason for this is because I usually only apply them to bare copper (parts that have already been lapped).

I found Ultra slightly easier to apply, and more controllable, but didn't notice any difference in performance vs. Pro. I have not tried applying either of these to bare dies.
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^82w/mk sounds like bs, and yea the same thing about why would a company release an update that is inferior (it's happened before... but it's still weird).

82 W/mK doesn't terribly far fetched, given it's supposed component parts, though I would not be at all surprised if it was less.

At these bondline thicknesses, wetability, and consistency are going to significantly trump thermal conductivity in performance. It's quite possible for one TIM to outperform another in practice, even with half the thermal conductivity, if it has other properties that are more favorable. There is certainly a point of diminishing returns that comes well before the oft quoted conductivities of either LiquidPro or LiquidUltra.
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post #58 of 95
1/31/13 at 3:44am
Those new experimental mercury based pastes really perform well although the part applying it is a real pain also the aluminum intolerance might be a problem for some.
I use Phoyba liquid metal cools quite well. (way beter than simple artic silver)
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post #59 of 95
1/31/13 at 12:03pm
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Open side panel, lay case down on its side, test bench. LOL biggrin.gifthumb.gif

lol..why didn't I think of that wink.gif

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I've used both Liquid Pro and Liquid Ultra, if anything Ultra is easier to remove, but both will force you to lap most parts to completely get rid of it. Part of the reason for this is because I usually only apply them to bare copper (parts that have already been lapped).

I found Ultra slightly easier to apply, and more controllable, but didn't notice any difference in performance vs. Pro. I have not tried applying either of these to bare dies.
82 W/mK doesn't terribly far fetched, given it's supposed component parts, though I would not be at all surprised if it was less.

At these bondline thicknesses, wetability, and consistency are going to significantly trump thermal conductivity in performance. It's quite possible for one TIM to outperform another in practice, even with half the thermal conductivity, if it has other properties that are more favorable. There is certainly a point of diminishing returns that comes well before the oft quoted conductivities of either LiquidPro or LiquidUltra.

It's much less. See the OP for actual figures
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Those new experimental mercury based pastes really perform well although the part applying it is a real pain also the aluminum intolerance might be a problem for some.
I use Phoyba liquid metal cools quite well. (way beter than simple artic silver)

You wouldn't use mercury as a thermal compound. That would be bad
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1/31/13 at 12:09pm
good read! thanks for doing this.
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