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Hello fellow OC'ers:

This is my first post here, I have read posts on the site for a long time, but decided to join to get some input on a delima I'm facing. Last month my MSI 785GTM-E45 Motherboard spontaneously drew it's final breath...spending a quiet evening surfing the web:typer:, and POOF eek.gif...black screen, cooling fans go silent..nearly causing me to have a massive cardiac issue.doh.gif Of course I immediately knew it was a hardware failure. The million dollar question was, which piece of hardware?

After the typical troubleshooting using KNOWN good hardware...i came to the conclusion that, yes, my board died. I began searching the net for answers and ran across an article on OCN that shined some light on a possible reason for the death of my board.About VRMs & MOSFETs / Motherboard Safety with high-TDP processors All of the info in that article was totally new to me.....I had to pull out my old AM2 board and my AMD Athlon X2 4450e. Prior to the board kicking the bucket, my system specs were:

MB: MSI 785GTM-E45 mATX
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2GHz; mildly OC'd to 3.5GHz w/ stock HSF (Could've went much higher, but didn't really see the need)
PSU: Anetc EarthWatts 500W 80+ Certified
HDDS: Seagate 160GB, 500GB, and a 750GB, and an older Maxtor 80GB (All SATA drives)
Optical: LG DVD Burner (IDE)
RAM: 4GB (2x2GB) G.Skill DDR2-800 RAM

All that said...I've got an RMA for the dead board, but I'm not so sure it would be worth spending the $$ on sending the board back since the chipset is quite outdated. I've been digging around on newegg, problem is I'm on a VERY tight fixed monthly income (anyone on Social Security?..... You get the picture!) The absolute MAX i can spend at the moment is $180.00. I'm going to be reusing the Phenom II X4 since the most intensive task I do is use Nero Video to transcode videos & burn them to DVD, which the Phenom did with no problems at all.

I would think, it would be best to just buy a new MB/GPU/RAM and pop in the Phenom and be back in business... so far I'm looking at the following hardware:

MB: ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Graphics Card: XFX One ON-XFX1-PLS2 Radeon HD 5450 1GB 64-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Low Profile Ready Video Card
RAM: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model PGD38G1333ELK

The grand total w/ S&H for the above is $161.30 - So, now you all know my delima, and I'm asking for any and all suggestions (waiting/saving up $$ isn't an option here...going from a Phenom II X4 955BE back down to a dual-core Athlon is about to drive me crazy.....forget doing ANY video transcoding and burning with this chip w/o dedicating the system to the task of encoding only...can't even read e-mail without major lag with the 4450e) Looking forward to hearing from fellow OCN friends soon!

Thanks a million in advance for any suggestions/advice.

Shane
post #2 of 20

Choose a different RAM kit.

You can get 2x4GB of DDR3-1600 for less.

 

Otherwise, the above looks decent.

post #3 of 20
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Originally Posted by xd_1771 View Post

Choose a different RAM kit.
You can get 2x4GB of DDR3-1600 for less.

Otherwise, the above looks decent.

Thanks for the input, xd. What are your thoughts on using the above board with the mild OC to ~3.5GHz of the power hungry 955BE? Others are also welcome to put in their 2cents.gif worth as well! biggrin.gif
post #4 of 20
He's right^ I'd grab the Samsung 30nm stuff. it's good.

Listen to xd he's really smart! First person to help me out on OCN too.
That mobo is fine if you ask me, but check out to see how it looks on that list of motherboards.

You might look into getting a used GPU. I've seen used 7770's for as low as $70 on occasion. but good luck either way
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The Extreme3 should handle it nicely.

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The Extreme3 should handle it nicely.
^^^ THIS. I own 3 AsRock 970 Extreme 3 and will handle it.
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Sounds good to me...can't wait to get my Phenom 955BE back up and running...this Dual Core Athlon 4450e is about to drive me nuts! How did I ever survive happily with this CPU at one time!? headscratch.gif

How well does this low-voltage RAM handle OC'ing? Better than your typical 1.5v DDR3?
Edited by shanenc14 - 1/24/13 at 4:16pm
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Sounds good to me...can't wait to get my Phenom 955BE back up and running...this Dual Core Athlon 4450e is about to drive me nuts! How did I ever survive happily with this CPU at one time!? headscratch.gif

How well does this low-voltage RAM handle OC'ing? Better than your typical 1.5v DDR3?

Definitely better..7-8-8-20 @ 1600-ish...1.52v

Are you looking at the $92 one or the $63 one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280R
 
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Definitely better..7-8-8-20 @ 1600-ish...1.52v

Are you looking at the $92 one or the $63 one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157280R

Are you refering to the NIB vs Open Box motherboard listed on newegg?
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If you don't mind refurb the best deals can be had at Geeks.com,Asus runs all of their refurbs through them. I picked up a M4A88T-Evo for $40,they just had the M5A99X Evo for $49,out of stock now. Best they got now is the Crosshair V for $119. http://www.geeks.com/details.asp?invtid=CROSSHAIRV-FORM-BO-R&cat=MBB

You have to keep checking stock,as they come and go real fast.
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