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I was checking my temps and everything and had a mid oc of 4.1ghz off premade on my gigabyte sniper but want to self overclock, the problem arises at the fact after it did its self overclock and ever since I have had voltage fluctuation it was bad like fluction between 1.1 and 1.3v not very safe but maybe im wrong? anyway should and how do I turn off the throttling of ghz and voltage flux on my gigabyte board? thanks and it would be helpful if anyone could tell me a safe voltage to run 4.4ghz at?
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thought when i saw your post title, you where talking about disabling throttling feature cpu because of temps to high,
a cpu throttles when you reach max temp, 105C in your case having a 3770K smile.gif

the fluctuations are normal, its your cpu that downclocks when its not very busy, or has a low load,
same with the vcore, no or little load, it goes down too, its the powersavings that do that,
and saving power is what we want ..lol

heres a nice guide to oc a ivy on a gigabyte mobo,
http://www.overclock.net/t/1247413/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-with-ln2-guide-at-the-end
maybe helpful to start with when you want to do the ocing by hand, in bios

1.3V vcore is safe
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My 3770K runs 100% stable at 4.5 GHz @ 1.210v.
So for 4.4 GHz I think you might be good with anything between 1.150v and 1.200v. Every piece of silicon is different so you really need to test things out and see what works best for your system.

EDIT:
And the fluctuation thing really can't hurt. It's just the Intel power saving functions kicking in and I don't think there's a way to turn that off.
Edited by Meulen92 - 1/22/13 at 4:19am
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For Tcase max CPU temp recommended by Intel: http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
and datasheet 1 section 7-1: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
for Intel recommended max voltages.

Use the BIOS to OC and you'll need an excellent CPU cooler..
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Follow the guide which VonDutch posted. It is really good.
But I want to say dont use self overclock or auto OC because the Vcore is way to high.
1.3 V is safe but you need only 1.1 - 1.2 V for 4,1 Ghz (depends really on your chip) and to much Vcore raises the temperature needless.

And for temps. You should keep it lower than 65°C in Games and lower than 80°C in Prime95. But again lower is better.

Edit: For 4,4 Ghz I suggest you to start with 1.3 V and lower it untill you get bluescreens in Prime95 / Windows. If you hit the wall try to find out where the stable Vcore is.
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For Tcase max CPU temp recommended by Intel: http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz
and datasheet 1 section 7-1: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/processors/core/3rd-gen-core-desktop-vol-1-datasheet.html
for Intel recommended max voltages.

Use the BIOS to OC and you'll need an excellent CPU cooler..

sorry but, Tcase is something different then Tjmax
tjmax and tcase are measurements of different locations.
tcase= top of the IHS.
tjunction = temperature of the die itself.

Intel's DTS is calibrated to read distance to tjmax, and this is where most temp monitoring programs get their numbers from.
They then give you a temp based on what they think tjmax is by subtracting the the distance to tjmax.
If tjmax is set to 100C, and your CPU cores are running at 80C, you aren't past that 72.7C limit. You are well below it.
The temperatures are calibrated to totally different locations.
The assumption is that, within normal TDP values, with an unmolested IHS, the top of the IHS won't reach 72C until the cores hit ~100C (or whatever true tjmax is).

i cant find any vcore max or recommended ones in the data sheets you mentioned
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Originally Posted by Meulen92 View Post

My 3770K runs 100% stable at 4.5 GHz @ 1.210v.
So for 4.4 GHz I think you might be good with anything between 1.150v and 1.200v. Every piece of silicon is different so you really need to test things out and see what works best for your system.

EDIT:
And the fluctuation thing really can't hurt. It's just the Intel power saving functions kicking in and I don't think there's a way to turn that off.

theres a way, you can disable them in your bios smile.gif
but its a great feature, so why would you right
just some info about it.. wink.gif

EIST(desktop) dynamically increase/decrease its clock speed between its minimum clock and its normal operating frequency, as well as voltage, in order to optimize for power consumption.
in other words a performance reduction while using the system, the system may feel you don't need full power. drats just heard a drop out.

C1E Halt: while similar reduces Clock speed by adjusting the multiplier (Core clock to system bus ratio) and to some degree VID. (voltage) this is a more common occurrence with light use
or on today case of Multicore shutting down a core or 2.

C3, C6. This is a deeper sleep with a complete core(s) shut down (Gate off) and no voltage/Data at all. harder to recover from quickly, previous data is cached elsewhere and needs to be re-cached in L3 memory
to re initialize full muliticore, multithread use. Part of Core parking


by default they are enabled in the bios, or on Auto,
i only disable C3/C6 when ocing, for obvious reasons i think ..lol

k, enough of me and info, i dont want to mess up Faelore's thread biggrin.gif
Edited by VonDutch - 1/22/13 at 4:52am
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sorry but, Tcase is something different then Tjmax
tjmax and tcase are measurements of different locations.
tcase= top of the IHS.
tjunction = temperature of the die itself.

Intel's DTS is calibrated to read distance to tjmax, and this is where most temp monitoring programs get their numbers from.
They then give you a temp based on what they think tjmax is by subtracting the the distance to tjmax.
If tjmax is set to 100C, and your CPU cores are running at 80C, you aren't past that 72.7C limit. You are well below it.
The temperatures are calibrated to totally different locations.
The assumption is that, within normal TDP values, with an unmolested IHS, the top of the IHS won't reach 72C until the cores hit ~100C (or whatever true tjmax is).

i cant find any vcore max or recommended ones in the data sheets you mentioned
theres a way, you can disable them in your bios smile.gif
but its a great feature, so why would you right
just some info about it.. wink.gif

EIST(desktop) dynamically increase/decrease its clock speed between its minimum clock and its normal operating frequency, as well as voltage, in order to optimize for power consumption.
in other words a performance reduction while using the system, the system may feel you don't need full power. drats just heard a drop out.

C1E Halt: while similar reduces Clock speed by adjusting the multiplier (Core clock to system bus ratio) and to some degree VID. (voltage) this is a more common occurrence with light use
or on today case of Multicore shutting down a core or 2.

C3, C6. This is a deeper sleep with a complete core(s) shut down (Gate off) and no voltage/Data at all. harder to recover from quickly, previous data is cached elsewhere and needs to be re-cached in L3 memory
to re initialize full muliticore, multithread use. Part of Core parking


by default they are enabled in the bios, or on Auto,
i only disable C3/C6 when ocing, for obvious reasons i think ..lol

k, enough of me and info, i dont want to mess up Faelore's thread biggrin.gif
Thank you, but I know the difference between Tcase and Tjmaxx and should have stated Tjmax. Tjmax for the 3770K is 105C on page 16, other important voltages are in tables 7-4 and 7-5 starting on page 84.. Max VID is 1.52.
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Thank you, but I know the difference between Tcase and Tjmaxx and should have stated Tjmax. Tjmax for the 3770K is 105C on page 16, other important voltages are in tables 7-4 and 7-5 starting on page 84.. Max VID is 1.52.

Max VID is not the same as the maximum safe voltage. Max VID is just the highest voltage Intel coded into the VID table - Intel has never said what they consider to be a safe voltage.
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So I am running prime95 and I am oced to 4.7ghz at 1.33v is this good? so far max temp is 82c on one core next lowest is 77c followed by 74c

I am using h80i cooler
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also havent seen 82c in a long time temps are low 70c and into the 60c
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