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I signed up and I am very hesitant about the game, but the trailer makes me cautiously optimistic.
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We'll see how this goes. And btw having beta tested 3 games isn't what gets you to having an "excellent" chance of getting in the closed beta. And excellent doesn't mean much really as it is. What really increases your chances is the part you write about why they should pick you over other people to beta test the game. If you write something they like, but still have "above average" in the little popup, your chances are still way higher than somebody who just wrote one line in there like "coz i'm a huge fan of teh TES series trololol" but has "excellent" in the popup. Always has been this way, always will be.
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I signed up and I am very hesitant about the game, but the trailer makes me cautiously optimistic.

Im very cautious about it, some of it sounds good like being able to wear any armor and use any weapon but at the same time i just think the game might fail. Awaiting on some proper game play footage and especially the combat - if its basically an Elder Scrolls combat system then it will fail, Elder Scrolls combat works in a single player i just dont see it working what so ever in a MMO setting
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I can't imagine this game's boss fights to be any fun. They're going to need to add some better ai than the e scrolls games had, otherwise the mp aspect will be lonely. mp looks really fun but mp-only games like mech warrior online just don't last imo
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Im very cautious about it, some of it sounds good like being able to wear any armor and use any weapon but at the same time i just think the game might fail. Awaiting on some proper game play footage and especially the combat - if its basically an Elder Scrolls combat system then it will fail, Elder Scrolls combat works in a single player i just dont see it working what so ever in a MMO setting

See Darkfall Online/ Darkfall Unholy Wars, and you'll see how wrong you are about that.

Skill based combat is incredible, and beats tab targeting nonsense.

I think TES:O is going to be a mix, sort of like how Guild Wars 2 handles combat. GW2 has a good mix as far as the combat system goes, but I'd rather play a game with Darkfall's combat system.
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See Darkfall Online/ Darkfall Unholy Wars, and you'll see how wrong you are about that.

Skill based combat is incredible, and beats tab targeting nonsense.

I think TES:O is going to be a mix, sort of like how Guild Wars 2 handles combat. GW2 has a good mix as far as the combat system goes, but I'd rather play a game with Darkfall's combat system.

If the games combat system is ANYTHING like Terra it WILL fail and if its ANYTHING like the Elder Scrolls games it WILL fail. If its like Wow/GW2 it will do well thats just my opinion. However seeing as we havent seen anything form the combat yet this is all speculation the sooner we get some combat footage we will be able to see more about if the game will be a success or a failure. The combat is such a HUGE aspect of these kind of games everything else could be perfect if the combat system sucks the game will fail.
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If the games combat system is ANYTHING like Terra it WILL fail and if its ANYTHING like the Elder Scrolls games it WILL fail. If its like Wow/GW2 it will do well thats just my opinion. However seeing as we havent seen anything form the combat yet this is all speculation the sooner we get some combat footage we will be able to see more about if the game will be a success or a failure. The combat is such a HUGE aspect of these kind of games everything else could be perfect if the combat system sucks the game will fail.

I highly enjoy the combat system of TERA, I believe it is evolutionary in the world of MMORPG's and wish more would switch to it. It allows a better sense of immersion and also allows you to actually dodge attacks based on personal skill and not chance like WOW or GW. I completely agree that the combat system and make or break a game, but in this case, I believe the way of the future for MMORPG's is the free targeting system. Hell, if they make the aiming system the same as in the actual Skyrim games that would be fantastic! The tabbed system is just so old now and has been needing changed for so long, I believe we will be seeing less and less games using it as be progress with these types of games.
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I highly enjoy the combat system of TERA, I believe it is evolutionary in the world of MMORPG's and wish more would switch to it. It allows a better sense of immersion and also allows you to actually dodge attacks based on personal skill and not chance like WOW or GW. I completely agree that the combat system and make or break a game, but in this case, I believe the way of the future for MMORPG's is the free targeting system. Hell, if they make the aiming system the same as in the actual Skyrim games that would be fantastic! The tabbed system is just so old now and has been needing changed for so long, I believe we will be seeing less and less games using it as be progress with these types of games.

You might be the only one then. I played the BETA and knew it was going to be a fail game, the combat is terrible and the free aim is such a stupid gimmick that didnt work, was not shocked when it went free play. No MMO that wants to be a success will use the same system, the game bombed HARD that is a clear sign the game was awful. It also shows just how important the combat is, the game looked very nice despite the horrible models and little girls running around everywhere but the combat was SO bad that everything else in the game really doesnt matter.

Free Aim will not be the future of MMO games UNLESS the game actually requires it and TERA didnt the mobs barely moved it made the whole system rather pointless could if reworked well enough work in a GW2 setting, something action packed and fast but TERA wasnt that, it just felt slow and felt that it just wasnt needed for such a game. The thing is, why try something new when the current ways work so well and are LIKED, TERA tried something new and it bombed HARD.
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If the games combat system is ANYTHING like Terra it WILL fail and if its ANYTHING like the Elder Scrolls games it WILL fail. If its like Wow/GW2 it will do well thats just my opinion. However seeing as we havent seen anything form the combat yet this is all speculation the sooner we get some combat footage we will be able to see more about if the game will be a success or a failure. The combat is such a HUGE aspect of these kind of games everything else could be perfect if the combat system sucks the game will fail.

Terra failed because its questing system and crafting system is distinctly Asian in an American market. In fact the whole game is too Asian. Everyone praised the combat system from what I gathered, because it made the game less grindy and dumb, but at the end the grind got most people.

Hell I loved it. PvP would have been pretty grand with that combat system, but unfortunately I didn't get to that point.

Darkfall is a niche game because it's a full loot FFA PVP system. This is a problem because most gamers are carebears and hate getting destroyed and losing gear. The combat system itself is good though.


If your combat system argument holds any water, let me ask you this: Why did SWTOR fail, it had a standard combat system, a standard questing system, and by all accounts should have been a success. But it sucked.
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