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anymore gw2 or wow copies and im going to start throwing feces.

plz Bethesda steer clear of that model--hype that 3 team pvp and make some cool boss fights
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anymore gw2 or wow copies and im going to start throwing feces.

plz Bethesda steer clear of that model--hype that 3 team pvp and make some cool boss fights

You would rather have a Free Aim system?
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Although it sounds like it would be awesome I don't think this is going to play out like we want it to, the main thing that makes Elder Scrolls so enjoyable to MANY is the mods and online there obviously won't be any.
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When I first heard about ESO, I thought it would be concentrated more on PvE. The single player games are so focused on lore, exploration, and crafting, that it only seemed natural. Now that some info is coming out about the game, all you see written is about how great the PvP aspects of the game will be. I really hope it isn't all about that and they do throw some good PvE in for more casual gameplay.
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Terra failed because its questing system and crafting system is distinctly Asian in an American market. In fact the whole game is too Asian. Everyone praised the combat system from what I gathered, because it made the game less grindy and dumb, but at the end the grind got most people.

Hell I loved it. PvP would have been pretty grand with that combat system, but unfortunately I didn't get to that point.

Darkfall is a niche game because it's a full loot FFA PVP system. This is a problem because most gamers are carebears and hate getting destroyed and losing gear. The combat system itself is good though.


If your combat system argument holds any water, let me ask you this: Why did SWTOR fail, it had a standard combat system, a standard questing system, and by all accounts should have been a success. But it sucked.

I agree, all of my friends loved the combat system, it was the repetitiveness of the quests that got to them. Now while I agree that the combat system did seem a bit "sluggish", overall it worked well. The models were able to be hit if you aimed correctly and I believe that this whole "free aim combat" must not be liked in the European area as that is where 'ArmageddonAsh' is from and all of his friends(I'm assuming). If they were able to add more to the questing system, then I believe the game would have took off like a rocket. Just as ArmageddonAsh said before, "saying that it failed coz of the combat system i think is wrong", is why he was saying it failed HARD in the first place. I believe just like you, that it was due to other reasons outside of the combat system.
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You would rather have a Free Aim system?

Aye matey

I personally liked the sw galaxies setup with a hybrid of both: you can still target with tab for health n such, but hitting & missing is aim-dependent.

I mean, using a bow with tabbed targeting is just...
aoe magic using targeting is just...
sneaking up for a backstab and using targeting to execute is just... lame

it wouldnt really feel like I'm controlling my character, but maybe that's just the mount & blade warband talking (im hooked on that combat style)

Swtor was kinda what ruined the tabbed targeting for me, as it was insanely uneventful & dull.
After playing ES III-V, another Elder scrolls game just would not feel right with tabs & 1-9 hotkeys for arbitrary abilities imo.
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If the games combat system is ANYTHING like Terra it WILL fail and if its ANYTHING like the Elder Scrolls games it WILL fail. If its like Wow/GW2 it will do well thats just my opinion. However seeing as we havent seen anything form the combat yet this is all speculation the sooner we get some combat footage we will be able to see more about if the game will be a success or a failure. The combat is such a HUGE aspect of these kind of games everything else could be perfect if the combat system sucks the game will fail.

I thoroughly enjoyed the combat along with a lot of other people that still play the game. I quit about 2 months after due to lack of end game content and battlegrounds. it was a tad bit on the grindy side as well. The combat thought was very nice, it was engaging and never felt boring at all. The idea of being able to dodge/roll out of attacks and not being able to just TAB target somethign and blast it away was fun. I do like tab target as well though, still play world of warcraft and GW2 wasnt that bad. GW2 didnt keep me as long as TERA did, i found it quite boring after a while. But there are more people that like the combat system in TERA than those that dont as far as gamers i know. You also have Vinditcus, RiaderZ and Dragon Nest which alot of people enjoy which has the same combat style as TERA.

Im excited for TESO but not setting my hopes too high. I want to experience it and hope its a really good mmo, but on the other hand I can see it not doing so well. But i dont know a whole lot about the game to begin with. Only time will tell.
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I thoroughly enjoyed the combat along with a lot of other people that still play the game. I quit about 2 months after due to lack of end game content and battlegrounds. it was a tad bit on the grindy side as well. The combat thought was very nice, it was engaging and never felt boring at all. The idea of being able to dodge/roll out of attacks and not being able to just TAB target somethign and blast it away was fun. I do like tab target as well though, still play world of warcraft and GW2 wasnt that bad. GW2 didnt keep me as long as TERA did, i found it quite boring after a while. But there are more people that like the combat system in TERA than those that dont as far as gamers i know. You also have Vinditcus, RiaderZ and Dragon Nest which alot of people enjoy which has the same combat style as TERA.

Im excited for TESO but not setting my hopes too high. I want to experience it and hope its a really good mmo, but on the other hand I can see it not doing so well. But i dont know a whole lot about the game to begin with. Only time will tell.

Everyone is different, you might have liked it, you might know people that liked it but i didnt like it and i know many people that didnt like it. In a PvP situation it could have been great, in the PvE situation it was pointless rarely while i played did i ever need to keep on the move, sure move out the way her eor there but nothing major and nothing compared to the likes of WoW and GW2
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Everyone is different, you might have liked it, you might know people that liked it but i didnt like it and i know many people that didnt like it. In a PvP situation it could have been great, in the PvE situation it was pointless rarely while i played did i ever need to keep on the move, sure move out the way her eor there but nothing major and nothing compared to the likes of WoW and GW2

True not everyone liked it. But hard to compate to a tab targetting game like WoW or GW2. I mean you can attack and cast in GW2 while moving which generally would make fights designed with more movement, not too mention the underwater fights. Then you have wow with its fights, which also being tab target game and with the amount of gear progression WoW is at in its current expansion or even with earlier versions. The fact of being able to tab target means you should be able to do alot more movements combined with raids whch TERA didnt have for a long long time means more movement dependent fights. I mean you couldnt even use 90% of attack while moving in TERA, classes in wow have attacks that can be used while moving specifically to keep dps up on targets during raid/instance encounters.

But i see what you are saying. But it still is hard and a little unfair to compare the combat styles considering how different the PVE aspects are from all 3 games. Honestly though, it was more than just the combat that lead many people away from that game, like another poster above stated. It wasnt westernized enough for our liking, it still had alot of Asian grind aspects to it that people grow very tired of very quickly in the western hemisphere.

Heres to hoping TESO has established a very healthy balance. I like the depth of fights in World of Warcraft end game raiding, but i also was a fan of the real action combat. But I'm also a fan of both styles of combat so really hard for me to be disappointed.

As long has it has a deep skill system, drives players to explore the world with achievements and lore and epic items/rare mobs...world bosses...they could have a good game on their hands.

That was one thing I also didnt like about TERA. The game was beautiful and the draw distance was amazing, yet you were never rewarded for exploring off the beaten path...alot of the stuff way out in the distance was just nothing but terrain.
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