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What exactly is it you mean by the bold part? If MS has focused on MS then Vista and Win7 would never have come to be.

I think a fresh example in everyone's mind is Ballmer's desire to copy the Apple business strategy.

Sometimes it works (ie. XBox) but it seems to me most of the time it fails (ie. Zune).

But who knows, my memory might be tainted.

I actually think that Windows Vista and Windows 7 were true to Microsoft's formula. They progressed the software without betraying their roots. If anything, it's evidence of what happens when Microsoft doesn't get distracted by what everyone else is doing.
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My god he just sweats so much. Like seriously use sweat pads and compose yourself. At least Jobs was a douche and he knew it, in fact, empowered him more so.
 
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Steve Balmer needs to be locked up in the looney bin in a straight jacket.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edN4o8F9_P4 The face of MS. Good grief!
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As long as the company is doing OK on the market (compared to the rest of the market)...no one should really complain about because what he is doing is working.

As to how he got his job...that sounds pretty typical. It happens at all levels of corporate management. Probably even more so in the middle and low management. Once you get up so far as the high level executive management you start to actually need the friends since there are a whole board of people that can fire you. At lower levels at least you typically only have a couple bosses you need to worry about keeping happy and you can scam every one else. So if Ballmer has been not playing nice I cannot see him lasting too long at top. He might have even been put there on purpose as a scapegoat for something that the rest of the management expects to fail and they can lose the shame by losing him. Which again is very normal corporate management at its finest. It is just what happens. You might be able to find a few places that don't fall in to this mentality, but I assure you that those companies are the minority.
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Doesn't shock me at all.
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Microsoft needs someone new
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Outside of his hilarious antics and sweating on stage....what do people have against him that they didn't have against Bill? I guess this is what happens when you push change. People get upset.

He's a pretty bad CEO who is more of a salesman than someone who should be leading a company, think like Steve Jobs during his first stint at Apple or at NeXT.
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The only danger ballmer poses is to Microsoft. Anyone with even the most remedial business experience could see that.

When you essentially have a monopoly over the world...you can do whatever you want. Sure you can go get some figures that say linux/OS X is gaining ground but realistically...its all still windows. Especially in the rest of the world.

And he's managed to split the community in two, and probably drive away the area MS has a monopoly in right now with Windows 8.
Linux/OS X are gaining more and more support in all of the ways possible, while I don't think Linux will have a majority marketshare in the next 50 years, if ever, he's certainly giving it a chance to at least reach 10%-20% on its own.
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Even before he was at the reigns and "pushing change" (if you can call it that), people disliked him.

He's just an interesting dude. He's always played the, "I wanna be like them," game rather than focusing Microsoft on Microsoft. He's never been a character that people want to support, which is very necessary for a CEO, particularly one that is trying to renew a company's image.

What exactly is it you mean by the bold part? If MS has focused on MS then Vista and Win7 would never have come to be.

Eh, most of the changes in Vista and 7 were more evolutionary than ripping off other things, if MS had been focusing on what they do best (Business computing) then they'd likely have been out earlier and probably run a bit better.
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Win7 would never have come to be.

Windows 7 is every bit the OS that XP was. Vista was a disaster and anyone with half a brain could tell you that pushing a broken phone OS onto the PC was never going to work. The problem Microsoft has is that any real improvement would require a complete tear down and rebuild, which would necessitate an entirely separate development team while the present one works on incremental improvements. As a starting point a journaling file system such as XFS should replace NTFS and then from there they can work on approaching Linux level code efficiency.

Vista was a sales disaster, but really it was a decent OS screwed over by mismanagement...I'd have forced hardware companies to make good drivers for it and not released the OS until it was actually ready, that's the main difference between 7 and Vista.
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What exactly is it you mean by the bold part? If MS has focused on MS then Vista and Win7 would never have come to be.

I think a fresh example in everyone's mind is Ballmer's desire to copy the Apple business strategy.

Sometimes it works (ie. XBox) but it seems to me most of the time it fails (ie. Zune).

But who knows, my memory might be tainted.

I actually think that Windows Vista and Windows 7 were true to Microsoft's formula. They progressed the software without betraying their roots. If anything, it's evidence of what happens when Microsoft doesn't get distracted by what everyone else is doing.

The annoying thing is that it could work, if done correct...Zune needed more marketing and to be released in more spots than it was, I've never seen one in real life to date but I'd happily have gotten one.
With the whole Windows 8 thing, I'd have made Metro more of a side thing in the main OS for media consumption while improving the old start menu and kept the internals slimmed right down for use of the kernel, etc along mobile devices, tablets, etc.
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Vista was a sales disaster, but really it was a decent OS screwed over by mismanagement...I'd have forced hardware companies to make good drivers for it and not released the OS until it was actually ready, that's the main difference between 7 and Vista.

In fairness to Vista, it wasn't the worst OS Microsoft ever released. That honor belongs to ME, which actually killed hard drives if you formatted them after ME had been installed. However, the constant nanny crap was intolerable. The user experience was also dumbed down to Mac levels, which was disgusting to me considering that I taught myself how to use a computer on 98. It was so bad that I refused to work on the family's laptops when they had issues.
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Vista was a sales disaster, but really it was a decent OS screwed over by mismanagement...I'd have forced hardware companies to make good drivers for it and not released the OS until it was actually ready, that's the main difference between 7 and Vista.

In fairness to Vista, it wasn't the worst OS Microsoft ever released. That honor belongs to ME, which actually killed hard drives if you formatted them after ME had been installed. However, the constant nanny crap was intolerable. The user experience was also dumbed down to Mac levels, which was disgusting to me considering that I taught myself how to use a computer on 98. It was so bad that I refused to work on the family's laptops when they had issues.

ME wasn't stable to begin with, but could have been repair with an SP if MS wanted to..Thank god they didn't (I'd rather NT like XP than the DOS Hybrid that ME was)

I've also heard that some of the issues relating to system stability was actually due to a lot of RAM sticks being faulty around then.
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