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I've been curious about how much worse their yields could be if they pushed their enthusiast/server parts to a new architecture/process node before the mainstream parts. Yes, I know bigger chips have lower yields, but a lot of people that buy mainstream chips in the current model would buy enthusiast socket chips if the order was reversed. As for a 4.0ghz base clock, that's just a matter of how high Intel wants to list their TDP.

I do not think Ivy-E delays were a yield issue, despite Ivy trigate being somewhat leaky. Ivy-E imo was delayed because AMD had nothing to compete with a i7-3930K and will likely not have one in the near future(it will take AMD 12 Piledriver cores to compete with an Intel 6C12T in multithread performance).
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Still need a compelling argument to get me to switch from my i7 920. Seems to do everything I need it to right now, and this thing is from 2009. Updating processors has really been a case in diminishing returns (except for uber-rigs) for the past few years.

I'm hoping Haswell gives me something to get excited about Render Farm wise... It's a pain to transfer all my Software licences so when I do it I want it to be worth it. June gives me some time to get it all planned out right. Hopefully Nvidia plays ball as well. I've given up hope for a reasonable 8-core non Xeon CPU for Cinema4D but a nice 6 Core would do the trick if it has some headroom.

I've been bashed for still running the I-7 920, from some saying what's the point, and I'll apparently never upgrade" etc... rolleyes.gif
I was hoping for something from Intel big last year, and then the locked Xeon's rained on my parade, so I bought an Acura NSX with the money instead of the killer SR-X rig I was thinking about. In retrospect I'm not complaining about that.

I'm at end of life, or end of trust with my current Mobo and really want to jump ship into a new Rig this year. We'll see.
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Was going to wait for Haswell to upgrade from my i7 965EE, but I didn't. I went to a 3770K and I'm happy. Haswell might be the next thing since sliced bread for the mobile market, but I just don't see it being worth it for the desktop or even worth waiting for. Even if you wait for it, the chips will be expensive as will the new motherboards (everything new isn't cheap), and for $320 you can get a 3770K and Z77 motherboard ... and that will most likely be cheaper than just a new Haswell.
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So when are the old chips going to drop in price, if ever? The 2500k is still $230 in Canada, and it's almost two generations old now.
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Was going to wait for Haswell to upgrade from my i7 965EE, but I didn't. I went to a 3770K and I'm happy. Haswell might be the next thing since sliced bread for the mobile market, but I just don't see it being worth it for the desktop or even worth waiting for. Even if you wait for it, the chips will be expensive as will the new motherboards (everything new isn't cheap), and for $320 you can get a 3770K and Z77 motherboard ... and that will most likely be cheaper than just a new Haswell.

Where can you buy a 3770K and mobo for $320???
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Where can you buy a 3770K and mobo for $320???

He is the #1 proponent for Microcenter $229.99 3770K. With some -$20/-$25 coupon floating out there it is doable with a $100ish mobo not counting tax(they don't have the CPU Mobo combo saving for 3770K, that's 3225 and 3570K only AFAIK).

For me, it is going to be at least August before I consider whether to go Haswell or not, the price will be higher the first two month for cpu and mobo, the bios will be immature & some manufacture would hold back a few mobo SKU to be released later anyway. Definitely want to see 5-10 Haswell reviews and a good number of user feedback on OC before making the decision.
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He is the #1 proponent for Microcenter $229.99 3770K. With the -$25 coupon floating out there it is doable with a $100ish mobo not counting tax.

Or the the $40 discount they give you when you buy the CPU and motherboard at the same time. That turns a good ASRocks Z77 board (which is seriously overclocable) that normally costs $149 into a $109 motherboard, which will bring it to $300 plus tax, which is $318 with Maryland's 6% sales tax ... close enough to $320 for government work.
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Ahh, well I don't have a MC within 300 miles of me unfortunately. frown.gif Been thinking about upgrading my folding rig to IB at some point...
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I've been bashed for still running the I-7 920, from some saying what's the point, and I'll apparently never upgrade" etc... rolleyes.gif
I was hoping for something from Intel big last year, and then the locked Xeon's rained on my parade, so I bought an Acura NSX with the money instead of the killer SR-X rig I was thinking about. In retrospect I'm not complaining about that.

I'm at end of life, or end of trust with my current Mobo and really want to jump ship into a new Rig this year. We'll see.

You made a good choice, the locked Xeons rained on everyone's parade (poor EVGA...) frown.gif. I'm hoping Haswell-EP brings back the goodness, but we'll see. I'm really curious to see reviews on real-world benefits/implementations of AVX2 and TSX.

If I still had my 2500k rig and I were only using it for gaming, I'd skip Haswell too. Should be a great time to buy a laptop, though.
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Or the the $40 discount they give you when you buy the CPU and motherboard at the same time. That turns a good ASRocks Z77 board (which is seriously overclocable) that normally costs $149 into a $109 motherboard, which will bring it to $300 plus tax, which is $318 with Maryland's 6% sales tax ... close enough to $320 for government work.

Might want to double check that combo discount, AFAIK since the 3770K dropped prices that discount only applies to 3570K , not 3770K.
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