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Best way to re-install Windows on my Crucial M4?

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I'm upgrading my PC and upgrading from Windows 7 to Windows 8. I've backed up my SSD and wish to put the SSD into the new system in a near enough new state.

Which is the best way to do it in terms of performance? Can I just do it via booting Windows 8 on it or is it better to secure erase the SSD first? if so what should I use and what is the method?

A quick response would be appreciated as we are just about to do it.

I have a Crucial M4 128GB. Thanks.
post #2 of 29
I would do a secure erase first then run the install, but you can just run the Win 8 install and format the drive as part of the install. Just don't do an upgrade install by accident.
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post #4 of 29
Install Win8.

Go to Optimize Drives. Select the SSD and Optimize it.
post #5 of 29
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Thank you. Used Parted Magic and followed the instructions here (in yellow): http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Solid-State-Drives-SSD/Secure-Erase-Program/m-p/62531#M19287

Also checked the other very useful link. Lots of information on it.

Windows 8 is installed and will do the SSD optimisation on it.
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"Optimize drive" does not defrag the SSD does it?
post #7 of 29
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I am having problems as Windows has installed on the SSD but after shutting down, I see a blank screen when i power up for about 3-4 mins and then I get a Windows Boot Manager message: "Windows has encountered a problem communicating with a device connected to your computer...." - it says I've moved a storage device (which I have not) or I have faulty hardware such as a hard drive or CD-ROM.

File: \Boot\BCD
Status (error code): 0xc00000e9
Info: An unexpected O/O error has occurred.

After displaying the message for about 20 secs Windows starts as normal and runs fine. I can restart too without any issues but when i shut down i get this problem. I have disabled Windows Boot Manager in BIOS (boot settings) but does not solve the issue.

I presume it is something to do with the SSD. My firmware is old and I was planning on updating it but i have not heard that Windows 8 does not run with very early firmware (a current limitation on the firmware also means I can't update the firmware on this system as it does not work with UEFI mode).

Before this I was getting a blue screen "Recovery" and when i checked the BIOS, it was not picking up my SSD (set as primary and had Windows on it), so I disconnected the HDD and now it does boot Windows but I have to go through the long wait of getting the Windows Boot Manager error message before I get in.

Any help?
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Originally Posted by qadri View Post

"Optimize drive" does not defrag the SSD does it?
No, it runs TRIM.
Quote:
Originally Posted by qadri View Post

I am having problems as Windows has installed on the SSD but after shutting down, I see a blank screen when i power up for about 3-4 mins and then I get a Windows Boot Manager message: "Windows has encountered a problem communicating with a device connected to your computer...." - it says I've moved a storage device (which I have not) or I have faulty hardware such as a hard drive or CD-ROM.

File: \Boot\BCD
Status (error code): 0xc00000e9
Info: An unexpected O/O error has occurred.

After displaying the message for about 20 secs Windows starts as normal and runs fine. I can restart too without any issues but when i shut down i get this problem. I have disabled Windows Boot Manager in BIOS (boot settings) but does not solve the issue.

I presume it is something to do with the SSD. My firmware is old and I was planning on updating it but i have not heard that Windows 8 does not run with very early firmware (a current limitation on the firmware also means I can't update the firmware on this system as it does not work with UEFI mode).

Before this I was getting a blue screen "Recovery" and when i checked the BIOS, it was not picking up my SSD (set as primary and had Windows on it), so I disconnected the HDD and now it does boot Windows but I have to go through the long wait of getting the Windows Boot Manager error message before I get in.

Any help?
Have you tired updating the firmware? I updated my m4s fine on my UEFI mobo, and my fathers AMD UEFI board.
post #9 of 29
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Yes we tried updating the firmware but it would not work so I called Crucial and they said that there is a problem updating the latest firmware "040H" in UEFI (perhaps it works for some?). We then did it in another system that was non-UEFi and we thought it worked, there was no message or confirmation saying that it did though. I've checked the firmware now and it's still the old one so it did not work.

I called Crucial and they said because my firmware was very old (0002) it might be that I need to update to each firmware release individually (incrementally) till I get to the latest one. They said try this as a first step.

Do you think updating the firmware will solve the problem?

It means putting it in another non-UEFI system again (as I'm pretty sure it won't work given that it did not before). I'm a bit concerned that if I keep using Parted Magic to secure erase and keep putting Windows on it, I might be wearing out the SSD?

Oh, this is from the Crucial firmware page:
Quote:
UEFI-based Systems: During validation of this firmware update we noticed instances where our update tools do not recognize the SSD with some systems using UEFI. The target device is not recognized as an updateable device during the reboot process. If this happens, the firmware update will not occur, and you’ll retain the firmware version you started with. Windows will then restart normally. If this sequence occurs, you cannot upgrade to this firmware version at this time, but you’ve done no harm to your system (or your data).
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Originally Posted by qadri View Post

Yes we tried updating the firmware but it would not work so I called Crucial and they said that there is a problem updating the latest firmware "040H" in UEFI (perhaps it works for some?). We then did it in another system that was non-UEFi and we thought it worked, there was no message or confirmation saying that it did though. I've checked the firmware now and it's still the old one so it did not work.

I called Crucial and they said because my firmware was very old (0002) it might be that I need to update to each firmware release individually (incrementally) till I get to the latest one. They said try this as a first step.

Do you think updating the firmware will solve the problem?

It means putting it in another non-UEFI system again (as I'm pretty sure it won't work given that it did not before). I'm a bit concerned that if I keep using Parted Magic to secure erase and keep putting Windows on it, I might be wearing out the SSD?

Oh, this is from the Crucial firmware page:
Quote:
UEFI-based Systems: During validation of this firmware update we noticed instances where our update tools do not recognize the SSD with some systems using UEFI. The target device is not recognized as an updateable device during the reboot process. If this happens, the firmware update will not occur, and you’ll retain the firmware version you started with. Windows will then restart normally. If this sequence occurs, you cannot upgrade to this firmware version at this time, but you’ve done no harm to your system (or your data).
How are you updating? The program or the bootable ISO?

The BSOD issues will go away most likely with the updated firmware.
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