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Ah damn. My comp just crashed running 100 x 46 on 1.3V doh.gif

Yeah, I need 1.46v for 4.6GHz, to sum it up just add more voltage..
As for the memory, you need to change the system memory multiplier to overclock that! thumb.gif
 
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Yeah, I need 1.46v for 4.6GHz, to sum it up just add more voltage..
As for the memory, you need to change the system memory multiplier to overclock that! thumb.gif

Okay I'm running 4.6GHz on 1.325v now. Just wondering, I always see people saying up voltage by a notch. Just how much is a notch?eh-smiley.gif

Oh and I just downloaded RealTemp V3.70 and it's showing very different temperatures from what the ASUS AI Suite II Sensors are showing me.. ASUS says CPU is at 65-68C whereas RealTemp Shows 79-90? Which is true? :/
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Okay I'm running 4.6GHz on 1.325v now. Just wondering, I always see people saying up voltage by a notch. Just how much is a notch?eh-smiley.gif

Oh and I just downloaded RealTemp V3.70 and it's showing very different temperatures from what the ASUS AI Suite II Sensors are showing me.. ASUS says CPU is at 65-68C whereas RealTemp Shows 79-90? Which is true? :/

I'd say the 79-90 one is true.. I mean the ASUS one is for the board and all but at 1.325v with LLC on medium-high (Assuming that anyway) I'd say 80-90 is probably close to your temps..

What cooler are you running anyway? You might want to try 4.5GHz with your chip depending on the cooler, and by a "Notch" is usually one or two settings. I personally go up 0.01v at a time. So 1.45 to 1.46. smile.gif
 
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Okay I'm running 4.6GHz on 1.325v now. Just wondering, I always see people saying up voltage by a notch. Just how much is a notch?eh-smiley.gif

Oh and I just downloaded RealTemp V3.70 and it's showing very different temperatures from what the ASUS AI Suite II Sensors are showing me.. ASUS says CPU is at 65-68C whereas RealTemp Shows 79-90? Which is true? :/

I'd say the 79-90 one is true.. I mean the ASUS one is for the board and all but at 1.325v with LLC on medium-high (Assuming that anyway) I'd say 80-90 is probably close to your temps..

What cooler are you running anyway? You might want to try 4.5GHz with your chip depending on the cooler, and by a "Notch" is usually one or two settings. I personally go up 0.01v at a time. So 1.45 to 1.46. smile.gif
 
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I'd say the 79-90 one is true.. I mean the ASUS one is for the board and all but at 1.325v with LLC on medium-high (Assuming that anyway) I'd say 80-90 is probably close to your temps..

What cooler are you running anyway? You might want to try 4.5GHz with your chip depending on the cooler, and by a "Notch" is usually one or two settings. I personally go up 0.01v at a time. So 1.45 to 1.46. smile.gif

Haha I see. I thought a notch is 0.025 tongue.gif

And I've been wondering, what does LLC actually mean/do? I think I had it on Auto. Oh and I'm using the CoolerMaster 412S. Don't know how good it is but from the reviews I've read, I'd like to think it's not half bad rolleyessmileyanim.gif

Edit: It's actually a CoolerMaster Hyper 412 Slim - http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6796
Edited by GabrielQ - 1/23/13 at 5:07am
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Haha I see. I thought a notch is 0.025 tongue.gif

And I've been wondering, what does LLC actually mean/do? I think I had it on Auto. Oh and I'm using the CoolerMaster 412S. Don't know how good it is but from the reviews I've read, I'd like to think it's not half bad rolleyessmileyanim.gif

Edit: It's actually a CoolerMaster Hyper 412 Slim - http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6796

I'm yet to still get my head around LLC truthfully..
Basically from what I've read and understand is that is compensates for the vdrop/vdroop under load. Basically from what I figure is that a higher setting allows the CPU to draw more power while it is under load. So say you've got 1.3v set in the BIOS, the CPU might be using 1.32v because of LLC. Auto is generally okay, personally that is what mine is set on.

From what I have read (and have experimented with) low requires more fixed/offset voltage, medium requires a bit less and extreme will overshoot the vcore by a fair margin in most cases. Especially on those AsRock boards (Not being biased, but it has been proven).

The 412S is alright, depending on what you paid for it personally.. I would drop it back to 4.4/4.5 and see what you can do there temperature wise. I'd try and stay clear of the 90's area or even high 80's. My De-lidded 3570k tops at about 75-80c depending on the fan speed I have set and the weather/ambient temperatures, mind you that is on a Thermalright SB-E which is a high end air cooler and it is de-lidded.

I assume you have seen/read about de-lidding though, thumb.gif Maybe that is your next step with the processor if you're that keen to get 4.6-4.8 or maybe more out of it.
 
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If you are still stuck take some screen shots of your bios settings we may see something that is not right or out of wack. But 4.5 ghz should be doable unless you lost in the Silicon lottery.
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Ah I see. Alright I'll go try around other settings then.

Anyway, my cooler's around.. 57USD. And it's the 412 Slim not the 412S. The 412S only has 1 fan, the slim has 2! And well, after testing 4.6GHz (100 x 46) for about 1.5+hours, it seems pretty stable and temperatures seem have dropped to about 74-85 now.

I wonder, is it okay to leave it at 4.6GHz for day to day usage? Or do you guys normally reset it to default or something lower?
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If you are still stuck take some screen shots of your bios settings we may see something that is not right or out of wack. But 4.5 ghz should be doable unless you lost in the Silicon lottery.


I've always wondered, what exactly is Silicon lottery?
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Ah I see. Alright I'll go try around other settings then.

Anyway, my cooler's around.. 57USD. And it's the 412 Slim not the 412S. The 412S only has 1 fan, the slim has 2! And well, after testing 4.6GHz (100 x 46) for about 1.5+hours, it seems pretty stable and temperatures seem have dropped to about 74-85 now.

I wonder, is it okay to leave it at 4.6GHz for day to day usage? Or do you guys normally reset it to default or something lower?

If you're happy with those temperatures, what program are you using to test this? Prime I'm assuming..
If it's a cold day/bad weather with low ambients I'd be tempted to say save the 4.6GHz setting for the colder weather, then make a new 4.4GHz profile to reduce temps for when it gets hotter! tongue.gif
 
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