Overclock.net › Forums › Mobile Computing Forum › Laptops and Netbooks › Help me pick a Laptop
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:

Help me pick a Laptop

post #1 of 6
Thread Starter 
Hey guys,
I am looking at a new Laptop. I have been on XoticPC.com and PowerNotebooks.com. I have been looking at 2 models. The Sager NP9170 and the PowerPro 11:36-675. I need a laptop that will have 2 2.5" hard drive bays as I have a Samsung 830 120GB SSD already that I am planning to use for the laptop (got it from NewEgg.com a few months ago when they were $60). Here are the 2 builds I am looking at:

Sager NP9170 - Gaming Laptop (Clevo P170EM)
- 17.3" FHD 16:9 "Matte Type" Super Clear Ultra Bright LED Anti-Glare Screen (1920x1080) (SKU - S1X506)
- Sager - 3rd Generation Intel® Ivy Bridge Core™ i7-3630QM (2.4GHz - 3.4GHz, 6MB Intel® Smart Cache, 45W Max TDP) (SKU – S2R174)
- -Stock OEM Thermal Compound
- AMD Radeon HD 7970M (2048MB) GDDR5 DX11 [User Upgradeable] (SKU - S3R155)
- 8GB - DDR3 1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (2 SODIMMS) (SKU - S4S423P)
- Remove All Branding
- 750GB 7200RPM [Serial-ATA II 300 - 16MB Cache] - Default (SKU - S5T306)
- 6x Blu-Ray Read/8X DVDRW Super Multi Combo Drive - Special! (SKU - S7P557)
- Internal 9-in-1 Card Reader (MMC/RSMMC/SD/Mini SD/SDHC/SDXC/MS/MS Pro/MS Duo)
- Sager - Intel® Advanced-N 6235 - 802.11A/B/G/N Wireless LAN Module + Bluetooth™ 4.0 (SKU - S8R111)
- Built in 2.0 Megapixel Camera
- Sound Blaster Compatible 3D Audio - Included
- Smart Li-ion Battery (8-Cell)
- Integrated Fingerprint Reader
- Standard Sager/Clevo Non Chiclet Backlit Keyboard
- LIFETIME Ltd Labor* 1 Year Parts Warranty Lifetime 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Telephone Support (Labor through XPC)
Includes FREE Shipping Both Ways for Parts Warranty Repairs (SKU - X9R009)
- Standard Production Time

Total cost of system: $1,554.01

PowerPro R 11:36-675 Gaming Laptop

15.6" Full HD (1920x1080) LED Matte Widescreen LCD
30 Day "No Defective Pixel" Guarantee - SALE! $45 OFF
nVIDIA GeForce GTX 675MX 256bit w/4.0GB GDDR5 - Shipping begins late January
Intel Core i7-3630QM (2.4~3.4GHz) w/6M L3 Cache - 4 Cores - 8 Threads
Stock Thermal Compound - FREE IC Diamond to CPU + GPU w/CPU Upgrade ONLY
8GB (2x 4GB) DDR3/1600 Dual Channel Memory
750GB SATA II 3GB/s 7,200 RPM Hard Drive
6X Blu-Ray Reader/8x Super Multi Combo Dual Layer DVD +/-R/RW CD-R/RW Drive - SALE! $30 OFF
Built-in Bigfoot Networks Killer Wireless-N 1202 - Ultimate Gaming Card + Bluetooth 4.0 (Dual Band) - SALE! $30 OFF
1 Year Parts - Free Ground Shipping - 24/7 DOMESTIC Toll Free Support + Lifetime Labor

Total cost of system: $1,482.00

I am really torn between these 2 systems. I really like the look of the Sager as it is plain and not flashy at all. The PowerPro R is a MSI barebones GT60 and I really like the audio and the size of the laptop. The GPU in the Sager is much faster as well, but I have read alot of reviews that say that the audion sucks especially with headphones.

So what do you guys think? Which system would you buy? Is there a different system you recommend?

Please keep your comments civil and symply state your opinion as an opinion. No need to flame anyone with a differing opinion than yours.

I should also state that this laptop will be used for Gameing while I am on the road. I do have a pretty descent desktop for gameing at home. I will be mostly using this for work though and have a need to run 4-5 VMs at a time on this using Hyper-V. I will be dual-booting Windows 8 and Server 2012 and I already have both OS licenses.
Money Sink
(16 items)
 
Greased Lightning
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 960 D0 @ Stock Asus P6X58D-Premium MSI GTX465 Twin Frozr II GE UL to GTX470 PNY Refurbished GTX465 UL to GTX470 with H60 Mod 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
12GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz @ 9-9-9-24-2T 2 X 64GB M4 SSD in RAID0 3 X 500GB in RAID5 LG BD-R Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Window 7 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 10, MAC OS X Dell 21" and LG 23" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseAudio
CM 690 II Advanced Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Soundblaster recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 5930K MSI X99a Gaming Godlike PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8GB 32 GB GSKILL 2400 DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 256GB 950 Pro M.2 4 x Seagate 2TB SSHD in RAID 10 LG Blue Ray Burner EKWB Predator 360 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 27" XStar 1440P IPS Korean Monitor ASUS 24" 1080P Logtech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair 780t Logitech G700S Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Money Sink
(16 items)
 
Greased Lightning
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 960 D0 @ Stock Asus P6X58D-Premium MSI GTX465 Twin Frozr II GE UL to GTX470 PNY Refurbished GTX465 UL to GTX470 with H60 Mod 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
12GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz @ 9-9-9-24-2T 2 X 64GB M4 SSD in RAID0 3 X 500GB in RAID5 LG BD-R Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Window 7 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 10, MAC OS X Dell 21" and LG 23" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseAudio
CM 690 II Advanced Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Soundblaster recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 5930K MSI X99a Gaming Godlike PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8GB 32 GB GSKILL 2400 DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 256GB 950 Pro M.2 4 x Seagate 2TB SSHD in RAID 10 LG Blue Ray Burner EKWB Predator 360 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 27" XStar 1440P IPS Korean Monitor ASUS 24" 1080P Logtech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair 780t Logitech G700S Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #2 of 6
the sager with the 7970m is the better option power wise, however the second one has a larger feature set which includes the dynaudio speaker and steelseries branded keyboard. if you like the msi, the 675mx has been known to overclock quite easily to 680m/7970m speeds.

about two months ago I built myself one of the msi laptop barebones which uses the exact case as the powerpro but had a gtx 670m. I can tel you that the speakers are the best in any laptop i have tested and the keyboard also has a premium mechanical like feel. the battery while not gaming, using the internet is about 5 to 6 hours. one thing you should know about the msi is that {at least my model} while on battery the dedicated gpu underclocks itself making it only as fast as the integrated graphics. while i have no sager to compare it to, the matte screen is very good and is alot better than i expected for use outside in the sun. the laptops maximum temperature with prime95 and furmark is 91c for the cpu and 74c for the gpu {670m}.
based on my personall experience with the msi i would recomend it.

if you feel equally good with getting any of them i suggest you go for the sager because in three years you will regret your decision when you have to lower your in game settings.
Bulldozer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx-8120@4.5ghz m5a97 evo hd 7970 corsair vengence 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
mushkin enhanced chronos deluxe ssd corsair h80 windows 8 consumer preview samsung 40 inch 1080p smart tv 
PowerCase
corsair tx850 v2 corsair 500r 
  hide details  
Reply
Bulldozer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx-8120@4.5ghz m5a97 evo hd 7970 corsair vengence 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
mushkin enhanced chronos deluxe ssd corsair h80 windows 8 consumer preview samsung 40 inch 1080p smart tv 
PowerCase
corsair tx850 v2 corsair 500r 
  hide details  
Reply
post #3 of 6
Thread Starter 
Thanks for the reply. When you ordered your MSI did you have them do the Thermal Paste upgrade? I am just wondering if that option is even worth the $35. I agree that the Sager will definitely be easier to upgrade in the future. I just don't know how bad the audion issues are and if I could live with them or not.
Money Sink
(16 items)
 
Greased Lightning
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 960 D0 @ Stock Asus P6X58D-Premium MSI GTX465 Twin Frozr II GE UL to GTX470 PNY Refurbished GTX465 UL to GTX470 with H60 Mod 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
12GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz @ 9-9-9-24-2T 2 X 64GB M4 SSD in RAID0 3 X 500GB in RAID5 LG BD-R Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Window 7 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 10, MAC OS X Dell 21" and LG 23" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseAudio
CM 690 II Advanced Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Soundblaster recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 5930K MSI X99a Gaming Godlike PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8GB 32 GB GSKILL 2400 DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 256GB 950 Pro M.2 4 x Seagate 2TB SSHD in RAID 10 LG Blue Ray Burner EKWB Predator 360 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 27" XStar 1440P IPS Korean Monitor ASUS 24" 1080P Logtech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair 780t Logitech G700S Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Money Sink
(16 items)
 
Greased Lightning
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 960 D0 @ Stock Asus P6X58D-Premium MSI GTX465 Twin Frozr II GE UL to GTX470 PNY Refurbished GTX465 UL to GTX470 with H60 Mod 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
12GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz @ 9-9-9-24-2T 2 X 64GB M4 SSD in RAID0 3 X 500GB in RAID5 LG BD-R Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Window 7 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 10, MAC OS X Dell 21" and LG 23" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseAudio
CM 690 II Advanced Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Soundblaster recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 5930K MSI X99a Gaming Godlike PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8GB 32 GB GSKILL 2400 DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 256GB 950 Pro M.2 4 x Seagate 2TB SSHD in RAID 10 LG Blue Ray Burner EKWB Predator 360 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 27" XStar 1440P IPS Korean Monitor ASUS 24" 1080P Logtech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair 780t Logitech G700S Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
post #4 of 6
i did not buy the msi from a builder i actually bought the cpu, ram and ssd. the paste upgrade is only worth it if you cant upgrade the thermal compound yourself and really care about it. in reallity a high quality paste cost $10
Edited by technofied - 1/23/13 at 5:58pm
Bulldozer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx-8120@4.5ghz m5a97 evo hd 7970 corsair vengence 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
mushkin enhanced chronos deluxe ssd corsair h80 windows 8 consumer preview samsung 40 inch 1080p smart tv 
PowerCase
corsair tx850 v2 corsair 500r 
  hide details  
Reply
Bulldozer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx-8120@4.5ghz m5a97 evo hd 7970 corsair vengence 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
mushkin enhanced chronos deluxe ssd corsair h80 windows 8 consumer preview samsung 40 inch 1080p smart tv 
PowerCase
corsair tx850 v2 corsair 500r 
  hide details  
Reply
post #5 of 6
1
Bulldozer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx-8120@4.5ghz m5a97 evo hd 7970 corsair vengence 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
mushkin enhanced chronos deluxe ssd corsair h80 windows 8 consumer preview samsung 40 inch 1080p smart tv 
PowerCase
corsair tx850 v2 corsair 500r 
  hide details  
Reply
Bulldozer
(10 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
fx-8120@4.5ghz m5a97 evo hd 7970 corsair vengence 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
mushkin enhanced chronos deluxe ssd corsair h80 windows 8 consumer preview samsung 40 inch 1080p smart tv 
PowerCase
corsair tx850 v2 corsair 500r 
  hide details  
Reply
post #6 of 6
Thread Starter 
So I think I am going to order this Friday when I get paid. I am still torn between these 2 systems, but need to force myself to make a decision. I just wish there was a local store that sold these so I could go in and actually see the laptop. I am also considering dropping the GPU in the Sager down to the 675mx to save $100. I have heard that it can overclock and hit the performance of the 680m. Can anyone give me any links to support that?
Money Sink
(16 items)
 
Greased Lightning
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 960 D0 @ Stock Asus P6X58D-Premium MSI GTX465 Twin Frozr II GE UL to GTX470 PNY Refurbished GTX465 UL to GTX470 with H60 Mod 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
12GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz @ 9-9-9-24-2T 2 X 64GB M4 SSD in RAID0 3 X 500GB in RAID5 LG BD-R Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Window 7 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 10, MAC OS X Dell 21" and LG 23" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseAudio
CM 690 II Advanced Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Soundblaster recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 5930K MSI X99a Gaming Godlike PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8GB 32 GB GSKILL 2400 DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 256GB 950 Pro M.2 4 x Seagate 2TB SSHD in RAID 10 LG Blue Ray Burner EKWB Predator 360 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 27" XStar 1440P IPS Korean Monitor ASUS 24" 1080P Logtech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair 780t Logitech G700S Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
Money Sink
(16 items)
 
Greased Lightning
(16 items)
 
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Core i7 960 D0 @ Stock Asus P6X58D-Premium MSI GTX465 Twin Frozr II GE UL to GTX470 PNY Refurbished GTX465 UL to GTX470 with H60 Mod 
RAMHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
12GB G.Skill Ripjaws 1600Mhz @ 9-9-9-24-2T 2 X 64GB M4 SSD in RAID0 3 X 500GB in RAID5 LG BD-R Corsair H100 
OSMonitorKeyboardPower
Window 7 64-bit, Ubuntu Linux 10, MAC OS X Dell 21" and LG 23" Razer BlackWidow Ultimate Corsair HX750 
CaseMouseAudio
CM 690 II Advanced Mad Catz Cyborg R.A.T. 7 Soundblaster recon3D Fatal1ty Champion 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Core i7 5930K MSI X99a Gaming Godlike PowerColor Red Dragon RX 580 8GB 32 GB GSKILL 2400 DDR4 
Hard DriveHard DriveOptical DriveCooling
Samsung 256GB 950 Pro M.2 4 x Seagate 2TB SSHD in RAID 10 LG Blue Ray Burner EKWB Predator 360 AIO 
OSMonitorMonitorKeyboard
Windows 10 Pro 27" XStar 1440P IPS Korean Monitor ASUS 24" 1080P Logtech G710+ 
PowerCaseMouseAudio
Corsair AX850 Corsair 780t Logitech G700S Onboard 
  hide details  
Reply
New Posts  All Forums:Forum Nav:
  Return Home
  Back to Forum: Laptops and Netbooks
Overclock.net › Forums › Mobile Computing Forum › Laptops and Netbooks › Help me pick a Laptop