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Hey guys, a buddy just approached me and said he wanted to buy this desktop. So, I took the liberty of informing him that I could do a better job. I think I'm close, but I'm not sure. He wants it mostly for CAD work and general computing. He wants it to last. I don't see him overclocking. Currently he's running a garbage laptop, so anything would be an upgrade....but I'm trying to get bang-for-buck. So, the build so far:

Updated:
$40 - NZXT Source 210
$65 - Spinpoint F3
$150 - EVGA GTX 650Ti
$30 - Antec Neo 400W
$50 - MSI H61
$130 - i3 3220
$38 - Patriot Gamer 2 2x4GB 1333
Total: $504

Opinions?
Edited by victorzamora - 1/24/13 at 10:40am
 
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Overkill or not, using a low-quality PSU like that is very risky.  Not only that, but it can cause system instability and poor performance.

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post #3 of 27
dont know his budget but i would definitetly think about getting better quality pieces.
post #4 of 27

The pre-built is $479.99, and this build as it is comes to $492.

 

Anyway, the cheapest PSU I found that can be safely recommended and trusted is the 400W Antec Neo ECO for $29.99 shipped:

 

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371029

 

Internally it is a SeaSonic S12II.

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TwoCables: Awesome, that's been added.

jdstock, what do you mean by "better quality pieces"? His budget was $400 but said he could stretch to $600 if it would make the computer that much better.
 
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The only other thing I can think of is the memory.  I don't recognize "Pareema", but it's not like he's overclocking.  :)

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post #7 of 27
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Originally Posted by victorzamora View Post

TwoCables: Awesome, that's been added.

jdstock, what do you mean by "better quality pieces"? His budget was $400 but said he could stretch to $600 if it would make the computer that much better.

didnt know his budget. youll be fine then with this build. smile.gif
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So, a few questions:
Is this computer definitely better than a $400 build?
For $600, could he get something noticeably better?
For CAD modelling, would more cores/more ram/lower GPU do better or is CAD GPU intensive?
Would he be better off with 1x4GB stick so he can upgrade later or 2x2GB? I mean, is Dual Channel that big of a deal?
 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by victorzamora View Post

So, a few questions:
Is this computer definitely better than a $400 build?
For $600, could he get something noticeably better?
For CAD modelling, would more cores/more ram/lower GPU do better or is CAD GPU intensive?
Would he be better off with 1x4GB stick so he can upgrade later or 2x2GB? I mean, is Dual Channel that big of a deal?

Looks like Nvidia is way better for CAD, a GTX 650 outperforming a 7970.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/AutoDesk-AutoCAD-2013-GPU-Acceleration-164

I would have him stretch to a Quad Core, 8 Gb ram, and a GTX 660. Should be perfect for CAD.

MSI H61 $50
i5 3550P $180
Patriot 2x4gb (8Gb) $39
Corsair CX430 $45
S210 $40
GTX 660 $205
HDD $65

Total: ~$624

Well worth the extra cost IMO.

Or a cheaper option that is quite a step down.
MSI H61 $50
i3 3220 $130
Patriot 2x4gb (8Gb) $39
Corsair CX430 $45
S210 $40
GTX 650Ti $150
HDD $65

Total: ~$519
Edited by sepheroth003 - 1/24/13 at 7:00am
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I'm having a hard time believing that. If you check out these benchmarks, you'll see the 7850 spanking the 650Ti in all but a couple benchmarks, and even then it loses by a very small margin. I mean, it has the 7970 BARELY beating out the $45 GT610. That's just too hard for me to believe.
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