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I'm going to switch it back to theater mode again later tonight to give it another shot. In that mode, I was finding the gamma was way too low. Standard is a bit too high which is why I had to do some mild adjusting in Windows and thus provided the ICC. I'm going to mess around with it a little more when I have time tonight.

I am also having the same crappy color problem here on my 3 vn247h's. I seriously was so disappointed when I lit them up for the 1st time, 2 out of 3 have dead pixels one locked extremely bright on red, while the other less noticeable on blue (gonna RMA them probably....), and then add that to the almost washed out looking color and harsh lighting. I was on the brink of returning them to find out the restocking fee was $58 on 2 of them alone, plus shipping - HA! no, I'd rather not loose $100 on returning them. So I was forced to mess with the coloring/lighting a lot to get it acceptable to my liking.

regardless gaming on them looks pretty good, (not games with a lot of text though like MMOs) however though anything else like web browsing and icons look, i guess too sharp? like jagged, in need of some anti-aliasing almost! Very strange, It's as if all text on these monitors looks effed up, but graphics appear fine? This the same thing in your case too???

Here are the settings i messed with to get them more pleasant -
-Theater Mode
-brightness = 80
-contrast = 60
-saturation=60

and that was all I have come up with so far....

EDIT: Holy crap, I just found the sharpness setting, don't know how I overlooked it, While It still doesn't feel nearly as smooth as my other 27" Samsung monitor, It totally helped my problem with text a lot! try sharpness at 30~40 I find 30 makes it look almost blurry, but 40 doesn't feel like enough... I have it at 40 though, the jump to 50 is insane really crap looking.
Edited by Goll25 - 3/2/13 at 12:45am
post #102 of 282
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I am also having the same crappy color problem here on my 3 vn247h's. I seriously was so disappointed when I lit them up for the 1st time, 2 out of 3 have dead pixels one locked extremely bright on red, while the other less noticeable on blue (gonna RMA them probably....), and then add that to the almost washed out looking color and harsh lighting. I was on the brink of returning them to find out the restocking fee was $58 on 2 of them alone, plus shipping - HA! no, I'd rather not loose $100 on returning them. So I was forced to mess with the coloring/lighting a lot to get it acceptable to my liking.

regardless gaming on them looks pretty good, (not games with a lot of text though like MMOs) however though anything else like web browsing and icons look, i guess too sharp? like jagged, in need of some anti-aliasing almost! Very strange, It's as if all text on these monitors looks effed up, but graphics appear fine? This the same thing in your case too???

Here are the settings i messed with to get them more pleasant -
-Theater Mode
-brightness = 80
-contrast = 60
-saturation=60

and that was all I have come up with so far....

EDIT: Holy crap, I just found the sharpness setting, don't know how I overlooked it, While It still doesn't feel nearly as smooth as my other 27" Samsung monitor, It totally helped my problem with text a lot! try sharpness at 30~40 I find 30 makes it look almost blurry, but 40 doesn't feel like enough... I have it at 40 though, the jump to 50 is insane really crap looking.

Yeah, the sharpness is ridiculous. Try the settings I posted and use the ICC profile I provided. I still need to tweak it a little as like I said, the gamma is a little high in Standard mode.
post #103 of 282
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Odd that 2 people here both are having problems when the products are rated nearly perfect on newegg and amazon.

If you don't mind me asking, what screens did you use before this? I have never really owned a monitor or tv that has not required me to tweak the settings a little, it's personal preference imo.
 
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Odd that 2 people here both are having problems when the products are rated nearly perfect on newegg and amazon.

If you don't mind me asking, what screens did you use before this? I have never really owned a monitor or tv that has not required me to tweak the settings a little, it's personal preference imo.

You should check other threads for people with ASUS monitors. A lot of people have issues with colors.
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I am also having the same crappy color problem here on my 3 vn247h's. I seriously was so disappointed when I lit them up for the 1st time, 2 out of 3 have dead pixels one locked extremely bright on red, while the other less noticeable on blue (gonna RMA them probably....), and then add that to the almost washed out looking color and harsh lighting. I was on the brink of returning them to find out the restocking fee was $58 on 2 of them alone, plus shipping - HA! no, I'd rather not loose $100 on returning them. So I was forced to mess with the coloring/lighting a lot to get it acceptable to my liking.

regardless gaming on them looks pretty good, (not games with a lot of text though like MMOs) however though anything else like web browsing and icons look, i guess too sharp? like jagged, in need of some anti-aliasing almost! Very strange, It's as if all text on these monitors looks effed up, but graphics appear fine? This the same thing in your case too???

Here are the settings i messed with to get them more pleasant -
-Theater Mode
-brightness = 80
-contrast = 60
-saturation=60

and that was all I have come up with so far....

EDIT: Holy crap, I just found the sharpness setting, don't know how I overlooked it, While It still doesn't feel nearly as smooth as my other 27" Samsung monitor, It totally helped my problem with text a lot! try sharpness at 30~40 I find 30 makes it look almost blurry, but 40 doesn't feel like enough... I have it at 40 though, the jump to 50 is insane really crap looking.

One thing I will say about the sharpness is CHECK YOUR WINDOWS SETTINGS! Everything looked great to me, but a lot of fonts were GARBAGE. I couldn't figure out why.

Computer > Properties > Advanced System Settings > Performance Settings

I had all of the boxes unchecked, which made "smooth screen fonts" or whatever disabled. That one setting apparently makes a huge difference, but I went and enabled everything, which really helped with the overall experience.

I got my adapter today, so I'm up and running on all 3 monitors now. Taking a video now.
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Odd that 2 people here both are having problems when the products are rated nearly perfect on newegg and amazon.

If you don't mind me asking, what screens did you use before this? I have never really owned a monitor or tv that has not required me to tweak the settings a little, it's personal preference imo.
I had, and still use for games I don't want to run in surround, a samsung p2770fh http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS27EFHKUF/ZA I may be a bit spoiled with the colors and general smoothness of that monitor, after I found the sharpness setting on the monitor last night I am a lot more satisfied now.

Still these dead pixels make me sad

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I had, and still use for games I don't want to run in surround, a samsung p2770fh http://www.samsung.com/us/computer/monitors/LS27EFHKUF/ZA I may be a bit spoiled with the colors and general smoothness of that monitor, after I found the sharpness setting on the monitor last night I am a lot more satisfied now.

Still these dead pixels make me sad

eek.gif I have one dead pixel on the bottom right only on one of my three monitors.
 
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post #108 of 282
I haven't noticed any dead pixels. Here's the video on colors and settings and such. Hopefully it helps, but I don't know if it will haha... watch in 720p!!
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Just thought I would chime in with my observations. I noticed a lot of color banding on gradients when I was using any mode other than sRGB or Standard. I really like this monitor but unfortunately mine also has a stuck white pixel in the upper left hand corner so I am waiting for Fry's to get more in stock so I can exchange it. I also have a stuck blue pixel but I can't see it unless I am 2 inches from the monitor. The only thing I wish was better was that there appears to be quite a bit of light bleed on the bottom right side above the buttons. Not really noticeable unless the screen is on but black. Hopefully I can get a good one.

My current settings:
Standard Mode
Brightness 50
Contrast 75
Color Temp: User Mode R100 G100 B94
Smart View: Off
Trace Free: 60
Aspect Control: Full
Edited by snrsuave - 3/3/13 at 8:10am
post #110 of 282
I had this monitor and ended up returning it. What really bugged me (aside from a dead green pixel in the middle bottom of the screen) was that when things moved there was too obvious of a dithering pattern. It was especially noticeable in visual effects in games like Diablo III, but you could pretty easily see if just dragging the Chrome (browser) window around. It was really disappointing. I got a VX238H at about the same time and it's similar, but I kept that one for a web browsing computer. The VN247H I replaced with a Dell U2312HM (it was on sale for only about $40 more than the VN247N) and couldn't be happier. It's an IPS, but I can't tell the response time is any slower though I'm not a PGL contender.

Here are an example of what I mean. This is from Diablo 3 and taking with a pretty good point and shoot (Cannon S95) with a 1/400 shutter speed.

Dell U2312HM:


Asus VN247H:


If you look closely (you don't have to look too close) you can see how "dithered" (maybe not the best term) the green swirls are. It was distracting to me. I got this in other games too. I tried playing with the settings (like Tracefree) and modes, but couldn't really make it go away. The color came out a lot better too though you'd expect that given the Dell is an IPS. I have an ancient Sony 1280x1024 from something like 2007/2008 that looks better than the VN247N though I suspect that's partly due to motion blur. I almost wonder if the response on the VN247N is _too_ good, which is why that shows so badly (no motion blur to blend things)? I don't know. It's not clear to me why this dither pattern shows.
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