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http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/phanteks-ph-tc14pe_5.html#sect0

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2671&page=4

http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2671&page=5

 

It'S hard to tell if Phanteks beat the H100. But let's say it's very close to being equal. It doesn't look worth it putting water in my case if it's so close.

What do you guys think I should get? I do have room for a H100 but I would need to pay for extra fans because stock ones are too noisy. While phanteks seems to be all around quiet for €80 while the H100 would come at €150 with the extra costs.

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I like the Corsair units because they look neat and tidy as the Phantek unit is huge and bulky.
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Originally Posted by jonashendrickx View Post

http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/coolers/display/phanteks-ph-tc14pe_5.html#sect0
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2671&page=4
http://www.frostytech.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2671&page=5

It'S hard to tell if Phanteks beat the H100. But let's say it's very close to being equal. It doesn't look worth it putting water in my case if it's so close.


What do you guys think I should get? I do have room for a H100 but I would need to pay for extra fans because stock ones are too noisy. While phanteks seems to be all around quiet for €80 while the H100 would come at €150 with the extra costs.
If your thinking of spending up to €150 on a cooler, I would suggest looking into a kit like the XSPC RayStorm 750 RS240 WaterCooling Kit. In Canada it cost between 140-160 (I have no idea what it would cost in Belgium so you will have some searching to do.

Or if you can wait a little while I would go for the Swiftech H220 240mm AIO Water Cooler, that should rape the H100 in performance. Its a new AIO from swiftech, that has a full copper rad, plus you can expand upon it like a full custom loop.

It should be out by Mid-late February, with a MSRP of $140 US. Link to the thread on it Link

If the two options above don't do it for you, I would go with the Phanteks. Like you said almost the same performance of the H100 while being cheaper.
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I wonder if someone can find some ivy bridge and sandy bridge overclocking results for the Phanteks

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/271900-11-phantsks-tc14pe-king

 

This guy has been running 5.1GHz with the Phanteks.

But how long can I go with the RS240 before I should replace the tubing or anything else? I am scared it would start to leak suddenly after one or two years. I mean you can't predict this.

Look at this:
http://highflow.nl/watercooling-sets/cpu--gpu-sets/

T
hey allow you so much.

Or this kit:

http://highflow.nl/watercooling-sets/cpu-sets/ek-kit-h3o-supreme-lt-120.html


Edited by jonashendrickx - 1/24/13 at 2:55am
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Don't get a Corsair.
Their H100, H80, H100i & H80i have a long history of problems. Now the new H100i and H80i are having pump failures.
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Hello fellow Belgian biggrin.gif

First off: Don't go for the corsair. I'd wait for the new Swiftech H220 to arrive and see how it's priced.
Secondly: How high you can run your CPU with certain cooling solutions will largely depend on how much voltage it needs to achieve that speed.

A big bulky air cooler might interfere with tall RAM memory as well. So that's a plus for AIO and watercooling sets. Other than that, a big air cooler is better price / performance wise.

PS: sent you a PM

EDIT: Perhaps a plus for air coolers is the extra airflow around the VRM heatsinks of the motherboard. Additionally, I find it much easier to make a very silent rig using air-cooling, of course not with the same cooling capabilities of a custom loop.

EDIT2:
In regards to watercooling leaking and maintenance: If you use a silver kill coil and / or some kind of biocide you shouldn't really replace your water. You can clean the whole loop every 6 months / yearly to check for algea or other things though, and I'd actually recommend doing that. Tubing etc lasts pretty much as long as you want it to.

So far I've had 3 leaks:
1 time I didn't put a stopper in one of the ports of my res ... doesn't really count as a leak due to usage but more stupidity ^^
Second time I forgot to place an O-ring, again, stupidity rather than wear or anything like that.
Third time it was actually a rotary fitting that leaked ever so slightly. It was due to stress in a certain direction. I'd shy away from using rotary fittings as much as possible if they aren't needed.

Extensive leak-testing while filling and bleeding + regular check-ups will avoid most problems you might encounter with watercooling. With a kit like Corsair's you have a false sense of security IMHO.
Edited by Bloitz - 1/24/13 at 4:03am
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The area in square cm of LC and air are not that different. The difference is the CLC radiator and fans are mounted against a case surface and air is over CPU.
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XSPC X2O RASA RS120 WaterCooling Kit for 125,-

Alphacool NexXxoS Cool Answer 240 LT/ST - kit for 125,-

Alphacool NexXxoS Cool Answer 240 DDC/XT - kit for 170,-

XSPC Rasa 750 RX240 WaterCooling Kit for 205,-

Price's in euro's
There are alot more kits available in Holland/Belgium to, just showing a few options...

All better then the Phanteks and Corsair coolers you mentioned.

The Alphacool NexXxoS Cool Answer 240 DDC/XT kit looks like a great kit for the money.

BTW:
http://highflow.nl/watercooling-sets/cpu-sets/ek-kit-h3o-supreme-lt-120.html is overpriced
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Using Corsair name in same breath with Phanteks is sacrilege... and water has nothing to do with it. biggrin.gif
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Let's be real here, water cooling is not worth it unless you view it as an (expensive) hobby in itself. Yeah you might get 200-300 MHz more out of your CPU/better temps., but if you want "plug and play" and are not in it for the benching, then get the Phanteks or the Silver Arrow and be done with it.
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