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Originally Posted by NitroNarcosis View Post

Microsoft logic is Flawless...except for that huge hole in the middle of it.

I run Windows 8 and I would say if it hadn't been for companies that return the start menu...It would have failed harder than vista/ME combined.

QQ Bill Gates.

-NitroNarcosis

Haven't you heard of "donut logic"... .quite tasty indeed.

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post #92 of 168
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Originally Posted by Azuredragon1 View Post

I wonder how many people who says "windows 8 fails/etc" actually gave it a chance and try learning all shortcuts that will make it feel faster then windows 7. A lot of opinions been pass around in this thread as "fact" so here's my "fact" windows 8 feels better/faster then windows 7.

This "argument" is so old and tired it isn't even funny anymore. The whole "If you don't like it, you must not have tried it" argument.

I've been using Windows 8 for 10 or 11 months now, pretty much daily. I hate it. How long have you been using it?

[Edit]

Ohhh, I got an idea, let's play "Let's reverse the roles." Here goes ...

"Maybe you will come to hate Windows 8 the more you use it. It is obvious that since you haven't been using it as long as I have, that you haven't come to learn to hate it for all it's flaws and short comings. Don't worry, in time, you will come to hate it just as all of use experienced people have."

How do you like that logic for ya? It's the same logic you JUST applied in you statement.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 1/24/13 at 1:06pm
post #93 of 168
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Originally Posted by ejb222 View Post

Dude, parents buy their kids iPads all the time. I'm not sure it's much different. it's already been proven that people will buy it.

Ok, you got me there.
post #94 of 168
I have personally used Windows 8. I have also commented several times on it. I have never, however, jumped to hyperbole or made a claim that Win8 is "terrible", "useless", etc. No one accused me otherwise, I am simply stating my background on this discussion.

Here is my perspective:

For starters, I tend to be pretty neutral to Microsoft. I run their OS on every rig in my house (currently 5 - 4 Win7, 1 XP). My son and I I use an alternative to Office (OpenOffice) but my wife and daughter use the real thing. None of use use IE; we all use either Firefox or Pale Moon. My son is the only console gamer here, and he plays exclusively on an xbox 360. I don't love MS, I don't hate MS, they are just another software company.

As far as gadgets go, my wife and I have Android phones, my son has an ipad, and I have a Kindle Fire HD. None of us own or regularly use a MS based phone or tablet. Again, it isn't that MS gadgets are terrible, I just feel that other companies do it better.

On the topic of Windows 8...it didn't really impress me. It's a decent enough OS, but it didn't really bring enough to the table to convince me personally that it was worth an upgrade. Every possible use I have for my computer can be done just as easily (or easier) on Win7 as it can on Win8. My mouse and keyboard do everything I need them to do, so I don't really need a touch interface. I know enough about security to keep myself and my family reasonably well protected, so minor security upgrades won't affect me much. I'm not an FPS/benchmark junkie, so minor speed improvements won't even be noticeable. I don't use an MS gadget, so a common interface between devices isn't an issue to me.

Here's the thing MS needs to realize - they already have the fans, and they will never have the haters. It's the people like me they need to try to win over. In my personal opinion, removing key familiar features such as the start menu, forcing unnecessary features like metro, and locking it down so the users have to resort to third party apps just to bring back basic functionality is no way to win me over.


In regards to the original article - meh, I'd be more likely to believe it if there was a source or an actual quote.
 
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I have personally used Windows 8. I have also commented several times on it. I have never, however, jumped to hyperbole or made a claim that Win8 is "terrible", "useless", etc. No one accused me otherwise, I am simply stating my background on this discussion.

Here is my perspective:

For starters, I tend to be pretty neutral to Microsoft. I run their OS on every rig in my house (currently 5 - 4 Win7, 1 XP). My son and I I use an alternative to Office (OpenOffice) but my wife and daughter use the real thing. None of use use IE; we all use either Firefox or Pale Moon. My son is the only console gamer here, and he plays exclusively on an xbox 360. I don't love MS, I don't hate MS, they are just another software company.

As far as gadgets go, my wife and I have Android phones, my son has an ipad, and I have a Kindle Fire HD. None of us own or regularly use a MS based phone or tablet. Again, it isn't that MS gadgets are terrible, I just feel that other companies do it better.

On the topic of Windows 8...it didn't really impress me. It's a decent enough OS, but it didn't really bring enough to the table to convince me personally that it was worth an upgrade. Every possible use I have for my computer can be done just as easily (or easier) on Win7 as it can on Win8. My mouse and keyboard do everything I need them to do, so I don't really need a touch interface. I know enough about security to keep myself and my family reasonably well protected, so minor security upgrades won't affect me much. I'm not an FPS/benchmark junkie, so minor speed improvements won't even be noticeable. I don't use an MS gadget, so a common interface between devices isn't an issue to me.

Here's the thing MS needs to realize - they already have the fans, and they will never have the haters. It's the people like me they need to try to win over. In my personal opinion, removing key familiar features such as the start menu, forcing unnecessary features like metro, and locking it down so the users have to resort to third party apps just to bring back basic functionality is no way to win me over.


In regards to the original article - meh, I'd be more likely to believe it if there was a source or an actual quote.

cheers.gifthumb.gif

Stephen, is that you? Are you writing about my life again? biggrin.gif

But seriously, I feel the exact same way. I just say it differently.

I actually like Microsoft, but I don't like what they are trying to become. I honestly don't hate Windows 8 as an operating system *IF* they would just put in an OS installed, user choice for "Classic view". Call me crazy, but I like choice. If they did that, and were committed to keeping it, I would buy Windows 8 on future machines.

But most importantly, as you said, I just don't see a compelling reason to upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8.
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I like the attempts to play that video off as though he didn't have a clue what he was doing.

Like one of the quotes said, it's for consumption, not production. I use my computer for productive purposes and Windows 8 made my life harder, so I got rid of it.

Some of the things he said are spot on. The context issues, for one, even my GF, who walked past and started watching, agreed that she had to come and ask me 1. where everything was, and 2, what the hell this certain thing does.

Now this said, I managed much better than he did in the video. I found stuff ok, but I still found the implementation annoying. For instance, closing windows was ridiculous. The red cross of old? Still necessary. The "Settings" panel he spoke of is another.


But yeah, I love the attempt of people to shut down the video as nonsense. Just check their profile out, see which OS they're running. Plenty of self-serving bias floating around.
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Well imo it is true... there were no good win8 tablets at Christmas, and the only one that I'd consider (without doing research, so ones that have actually been marketed) is Surface Pro.
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crappy article, crappy comments. Win8 is NOT worse than vista + ME combined thats just stupid. Clearly you have no desire to adapt to a new paradigm and as such you will be left behind.
Because clearly everybody else loves w8 and it's doing so well on the market. We'll be left so far behind it'll be the future and w8 will be another Vista in the rear view mirror.
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In recent news, my Nexus 10 was dispatched a couple of hours ago biggrin.gif £389. Nexus 10 > Surface RT
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Yeah I know, I ONLY say I like Win8 because I bought it for $15. It's not like I have 4 legit copies of Win7 lying around that I could replace it with if I didn't like it. Oh yeah, I do! Problem is I legitimately like Win8 mostly BECAUSE of the the new UI. Lots of other people do too so maybe that's the reason they defend it? wink.gif
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