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The value comparison that includes on the CPU/Motherboard is important to a select group of PC gamers. If I'm using DDR3 memory, a 7970, and an overall good system with a 5 year old motherboard and CPU, the AMD solution is the most cost effective upgrade to a new system. If I'm upgrading my entire setup, Intel is still more expensive, but not so much so that it wouldn't be considered.

 

Now, power consumption is way out of control with AMD. They need to get that under control. Everything is moving to low-power and AMD needs to keep up.

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The value comparison that includes on the CPU/Motherboard is important to a select group of PC gamers. If I'm using DDR3 memory, a 7970, and an overall good system with a 5 year old motherboard and CPU, the AMD solution is the most cost effective upgrade to a new system. If I'm upgrading my entire setup, Intel is still more expensive, but not so much so that it wouldn't be considered.

Now, power consumption is way out of control with AMD. They need to get that under control. Everything is moving to low-power and AMD needs to keep up.

That imo is something they will always be lagging behind due to being 0.5-1 node behind in term of die shrink.
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Then just get a 3570K and 7970. It will get identical performance in every game as the 3770K.

But the i5 isn't as good for my encoding or mutlithreaded work so it's a double edged sword. Besides I do a lot of 64 player BF3 and the four extra threads help big time. wink.gif
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I have 72 games in my STEAM collection, counting them I have only 11 games that can use 4 or more cores and perhaps double that only use 1-2 cores so for me and my gaming needs Intel is the only choice.

LOL!

Your steam account has been around for how long? How old are most of the games?

Your steam account is hardly a predicament of what current games do. Instead look at recent release off triple A titles then count how many have or are going multiple cores.

Its funny how the whole excuse people use for saying intel is better is "its better for my single/dual core games" That is just absurd.

Its a known fact most games get optimized for consoles then ported to PC. So if the new consoles are using AMD 8 core chips, how many games in the future are only gonna be single thread reliant? wink.gif
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But the i5 isn't as good for my encoding or mutlithreaded work so it's a double edged sword. Besides I do a lot of 64 player BF3 and the four extra threads help big time. wink.gif
But even if FX 8350 is fully used in BF3 it still not faster then 3570K , as fast maybe, faster no. So you lose gaming performance for encoding. Thats why you get 3770K. Best of both worlds.
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LOL!

Your steam account has been around for how long? How old are most of the games?

Your steam account is hardly a predicament of what current games do. Instead look at recent release off triple A titles then count how many have or are going multiple cores.

Its funny how the whole excuse people use for saying intel is better is "its better for my single/dual core games" That is just absurd.

Its a known fact most games get optimized for consoles then ported to PC. So if the new consoles are using AMD 8 core chips, how many games in the future are only gonna be single thread reliant? wink.gif

Me and my 12-thread CPU can't wait to see better CPU-optimized games come out! wink.gif
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But even if FX 8350 is fully used in BF3 it still not faster then 3570K , as fast maybe, faster no. So you lose gaming performance for encoding. Thats why you get 3770K. Best of both worlds.

Couldn't afford the i7 at the time unfortunately otherwise I would have gone that route. In fact my pc was supposed to be a very basic pc just to get me 'with the times'. A 8120 / 8gb / gtx550ti / 500gb 7200rpm drive setup evolved into my sig rig... upgrade bug bit me (went from a 550ti to a gtx480 to a 7970ge in like 6 months then plopped in the 8350 as soon as it was available then an ssd, 8gb more ram, etc.. lol).
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Couldn't afford the i7 at the time unfortunately otherwise I would have gone that route. In fact my pc was supposed to be a very basic pc just to get me 'with the times'. A 8120 / 8gb / gtx550ti / 500gb 7200rpm drive setup evolved into my sig rig... upgrade bug bit me (went from a 550ti to a gtx480 to a 7970ge in like 6 months then plopped in the 8350 as soon as it was available then an ssd, 8gb more ram, etc.. lol).

I couldn't fit an i7 in the budget at the time I built this PC(last August), I got a i5-3570K and it served me well for 4 month until microcenter started selling 3770k for $229.99 so I took the 4 hour round trip and got mine for $230+tax and gas, sold the i5 for $200 on Ebay.
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But even if FX 8350 is fully used in BF3 it still not faster then 3570K , as fast maybe, faster no. So you lose gaming performance for encoding. Thats why you get 3770K. Best of both worlds.
BF3 should be better on AMD dure to more threads than the i5.... it only has 4, therefore 8350 will do a better job thumb.gif
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Let me throw a wrench in there...
http://www.microcenter.com/product/388575/Core_i7_3770K_35GHz_LGA_1155_Processor
Intel i7 3770k $230.00 USD

For me it was pretty easy biggrin.gif
Or do us MC guys not count in this... the outliers that we are tongue.gif

Oh yes ill just go down the road to my local micro center THAT IS 200MILES AWAY and doesnt ship. You guys do not count as the majority cant get a hold of the content at that price point.
    
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