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The 8350 won every single benchmark. There goes your credibility. Oh wait you didn't have any to begin with what with your blind fanboyism and trivial replies.
I think if the clock speed was the same the fx woulda lost the single threaded one.... still though... it is incredible what AMD can accomplish with the money they have... very thrifty. Side stepping single thread with moar coarz and speed was pretty smart.

I think they would be further behind Intel if they would have sat there plugging away trying to match intel single thread performance.

Why the hell would you compare an FX-8350 at the same clock speed as an E8600? The FX would outclock the E8600,
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJlT8GfABU

^Best conclusion from a deep analysis. Share it with the community.


Seriously, get what makes YOU happy. Get what YOU want. The chances of your noticing the performance difference between an FX-8350 system and a Core i5 3570k is unlikely. Rendering, Encoding, Encrypting, Gaming, ect.

SURE there may be a slight difference, but are you REALLY going to notice the difference between getting 125FPS and 135FPS in a game? Are you really going to notice an extra SECOND in rendering time between the two? No. The time you take debating about them effectively wastes the extra time you could be having ENJOYING your processor.

This. If most of your time is spent gaming, Intel all the way but there are definite reasons to go AMD for sure, half the people defending AMD in here are just sick of seeing Intel fans and owners presuming gaming = everything everyone does and assuming that the AMD chips are much, much slower when it's like you say.
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Sorry but Tiny Tom is no Jeremy Clarkson. Don't get me wrong, I love Tom's reviews but nobody is as funny as Jeremy Clarkson. Period.

Maybe the Jeremy Clarkson of the computer world...Until someone makes a Top Gear ripoff for PC parts and actually does a good job of it, I could imagine how funny some scenes would be: "This week, we test a pre-built Alienware against a custom built PC and see if we can beat it.." while proceeding to drop parts all over the place and install stuff wrong while arguing about it constantly. (ie. That episode where it was Stig in a pre-built trying to get to them and they were building from the parts to see which was faster)

I'd love to see the reaction of enthusiasts after watching an i7 3960X being dropped on the ground, or installed with too much/too little thermal paste...would be hilarious.
    
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New one came out yesterday mate!

http://www.finalgear.com/news/2013/01/27/top-gear-is-back-3/

I wuv you, man. 720p, I think i'm getting this,... fizzing sensation right behind my penis.

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Why the hell would you compare an FX-8350 at the same clock speed as an E8600? The FX would outclock the E8600,
This. If most of your time is spent gaming, Intel all the way but there are definite reasons to go AMD for sure, half the people defending AMD in here are just sick of seeing Intel fans and owners presuming gaming = everything everyone does and assuming that the AMD chips are much, much slower when it's like you say.
Maybe the Jeremy Clarkson of the computer world...Until someone makes a Top Gear ripoff for PC parts and actually does a good job of it, I could imagine how funny some scenes would be: "This week, we test a pre-built Alienware against a custom built PC and see if we can beat it.." while proceeding to drop parts all over the place and install stuff wrong while arguing about it constantly. (ie. That episode where it was Stig in a pre-built trying to get to them and they were building from the parts to see which was faster)

I'd love to see the reaction of enthusiasts after watching an i7 3960X being dropped on the ground, or installed with too much/too little thermal paste...would be hilarious.
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But don't we have logan to already do that for us? tongue.gif
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I never liked TTL. I tend to fall asleep during his reviews. Way too long.. Not entertaining to watch either.

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Why the hell would you compare an FX-8350 at the same clock speed as an E8600? The FX would outclock the E8600

Well i mentioned in that same post how AMD decided to progress it's architecture by focusing on more cores and higher clocks rather than single thread performance... I was "just saying" that i think that's what that guy meant when he posted that benchmark...
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Not to mention over half of his reviews are about corsair products and all he ever does is praise them...

Could just be that Corsair's products of late have been mostly praise-worthy...
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Why the hell would you compare an FX-8350 at the same clock speed as an E8600? The FX would outclock the E8600

Well i mentioned in that same post how AMD decided to progress it's architecture by focusing on more cores and higher clocks rather than single thread performance... I was "just saying" that i think that's what that guy meant when he posted that benchmark...

Yeah, true. Still, I'd much rather own even my FX-4170 over any dual core Core 2 Duo, I actually use all of my cores and games are only becoming more multi-threaded.
    
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When I pointed out the SINGLE threaded cinebench???

Which it won.... ??? dem crazy pills man
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????

He was talking about per-core/logical CPU IPC, not the CPU as a whole.

If you compare a Core 2 at the same clock speed as a Nehalem based chip in single threaded tests, they are rarely far apart.
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Which it won.... ??? dem crazy pills man


Wait wait wait. You're IMPRESSED that your TOP OF THE LINE amd processor just narrowly beat out a 45nm dual core that has been out since... 2008?

Holy crap did you even see how much the 3570k beat it?

Dem crazy pills bro. AMD must be handing them out with every craptastic FX series they sell. Glad they marginally improved their IPC and can now beat a 2008 Intel dual core clocked 700 mghz slower. Go AMD! GO!
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You raise a fair point, but the Core 2 Quad still is a fairly capable CPU and does just as well as CPUs like the Phenom II X4, AMD A8, and Core i3 in most workloads... though the latter will do considerably better in a couple games like SC2 and Skyrim...

You're actually wrong on that. The 45nm C2Qs have a higher IPC per core/clock speed than all of AMD's CPU line up, including AMD FX, PII, and A series. Games like Skyrim and SC2, C2Q will bench higher, assuming clock speeds are the same and turbo is disabled (no turbo features in C2Qs).

I was talking about the Core i3... hence "the latter".
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Which it won.... ??? dem crazy pills man


Wait wait wait. You're IMPRESSED that your TOP OF THE LINE amd processor just narrowly beat out a 45nm dual core that has been out since... 2008?

Holy crap did you even see how much the 3570k beat it?

Dem crazy pills bro. AMD must be handing them out with every craptastic FX series they sell. Glad they marginally improved their IPC and can now beat a 2008 Intel dual core clocked 700 mghz slower. Go AMD! GO!

Cinebench single-thread is a completely useless benchmark. The 8350 will demolish your 3570k in the multi-threaded version despite Cinebench being compiled with the biased ICC that artificially decreases AMD's performance by ~20%. There's absolutely no reason to take a multi-threaded program and castrate it so that it only uses one thread. The only benchmarks in which AMD appears worse than in Cinebench single-threaded are crappy deprecated x87 benches like Super Pi.
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