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Honestly didn't think about it. Generally if someone is under such a budget constraint they can't spend another $150 on an Intel setup I would assume they are college or high school students that don't pay electricity and it wouldn't matter.

However, I was curious, so I found this site to get a guess how much money it costs to run a computer.

The intel would run about $90 a year.

The AMD would run $109 a year.

Around 18% savings in electricity (which is the same as 622w vs 750w). By those measures it would take 7 years to recoup the cost difference.

This is just one example and I understand far from definitive, just my thoughts on it.
I already explained in a previous post, I chose them because that's what the review used. I picked different boards in the other post and the difference was substantially lower. I still stand by the AMD platform is cheaper, and by enough that someone on a strict budget very likely could get a better GPU and therefore better gaming experience by going the AMD route.

You have to think green biggrin.gif. The difference in power is big but if you use your system 4 hours a day it should not make much difference. That beaing said I am all for efficient parts. People buy intel because price is not really the factor. Same people get high end gpus. If you spend enough money in gpus and other parts and still want to save in CPU by going amd u are doing it wrong. I really like the fact you can get 8320 for 160 which is 80 cheaper then 3570 where I live. Perfect for those on butget and have only 1 Gpu. Also 6300 much better pick then core i3. If power consumption was down fx CPU would have been amazing. After all not everyone games with their pc.
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You don't need a high end board to oc intel. I paid 120 for my z77a-g45. To really oc the amd you need a higher end board. I have built both and for day to day use there is really no difference. Atleast not to me.
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I still stand by the AMD platform is cheaper, and by enough that someone on a strict budget very likely could get a better GPU and therefore better gaming experience by going the AMD route.

The platform cost is virtually the same, and at the same price point gaming experience will be the same, on a budget.
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I think of reviews like this every time I read some uneducated fanboy say something like "I would never own an AMD processor" or "Only Intel for gaming" These nuggets of wisdom are all over these forums and they all wreak of stupidity.

Good to see AMD hold its own against the 3770k.

AMD's got the same problem in both CPU and GPU, and that is that the public narrative is against them. Their prioir history of bad driver support in GPUs has led to the narrative that "AMD drivers suck" which ngeatively affects sales even if the drivers are largely fine now. Likewise in CPUs they screwed themselves with Bulldozer (over-hyping it) and now the narrative is that AMD CPUs suck, even if they are perfectly fine for most users. Once you get that bad reputation it takes a long time (or a really good product) to overcome it.
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Or, if you're like me and live close to Microcenter you can grab a 2500k for $140 and save $50 over going with AMD setup. If you're just gaming, there's really no compelling reason why you wouldn't.

You are absolutely correct, AMD is completely screwed if you can get a 2500k for $140.
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You did not consider that the Intel setup could be run on a $20 cheaper 650W PSU or given the same 760W Seasonic PSU the Intel clearly have more power headroom to OC the whole system (CPU or Overvolt the 7970s),

I went based on the OC numbers of power consumption they had. Obviously either system is not going to run that full (622w intel/750w amd) wattage all day. I just did it as a rough comparison, not definitive as I said.
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the price difference between the 8320 and the 3770K is only $60 at microcenter, and only $20 for the 3570K, and they dont stock the 8350 as far as i can tell.

and leaving the 2500k out on the shelves @$140 kind of changes the price/performance ratio when the 8350 is $200 on newegg
    
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I went based on the OC numbers of power consumption they had. Obviously either system is not going to run that full (622w intel/750w amd) wattage all day. I just did it as a rough comparison, not definitive as I said.

My point is that on the same 760W PSU, the Intel system still have more headroom to push both 7970 from 1.175V to @1.2-1.25V which is huge for Tahiti Overclocking or 3770K to 4.6-4.8Ghz @1.28-1.32V while the AMD setup don't have such headroom to Overvolt the 7970 or OC the FX-8350 to 4.8Ghz.
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the price difference between the 8320 and the 3770K is only $60 at microcenter, and only $20 for the 3570K, and they dont stock the 8350 as far as i can tell.

and leaving the 2500k out on the shelves @$140 kind of changes the price/performance ratio when the 8350 is $200 on newegg
Yeah, at Microcenter. Majority don't even live near one.
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I wish I had a microcenter closer than 2.5hrs away.
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My point is that on the same 760W PSU, the Intel system still have more headroom to push both 7970 from 1.175V to @1.2-1.25V which is huge for Tahiti Overclocking or 3770K to 4.6-4.8Ghz @1.28-1.32V while the AMD setup don't have such headroom to Overvolt the 7970 or OC the FX-8350 to 4.8Ghz.

You are correct, the intel system would allow the 7970s to be overclocked more.
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I wish I had a microcenter closer than 2.5hrs away.

Mine is about 1 hr 40 min away.

Cost of my i7-3770K
$229.99+$14.95 in taxes+$24 in gas=$ 268.94, still significantly cheaper than Newegg.
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