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post #1 of 11
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Ok, so for gaming, what panel is faster and better ? (i will don't buy a TN panel).

And also, for an average human eye, a IPS panel will have much better colors than a VA panel ? Or the difference is not too high.

Can anyone give me some technical details about the two panels ? Which is better.

I had 2 IPS DELL u2312hm but i was disappointed because had nasty white colors, on the left side, was a grey white color.

Please help me make a decision. I really want to be fast in movies and games with no blur in movies. And as i said before, there is a really noticeable difference in colors IPS vs VA ?
Edited by CalinTM - 1/24/13 at 1:03pm
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post #2 of 11
If you want fast, you're pretty much going to have to buy a TN panel. The fastest IPS panel I can think of is 5ms. As far as colors/contrast/viewing angles, VA is pretty much right inbetween TN and IPS. wink.gif
post #3 of 11
Depends a lot on the actual panel models, quality of the particular one you get, monitor frame, monitor electronics, etc. Not just a matter of one technology vs. another.

Even if talking about general trends, the above post is a bit off, as VA panels typically have much better contrast than TN and IPS. You know, blacks being blacker rather than grayer. Also, don't make too much of manufacturer-listed response times.

In terms of colors, there is colorspace coverage (what range of colors are possible for the monitor to represent), color depth (not a big deal generally because most options but the cheapest TN are 6 bits + FRC that works fine or simply 8 bits), color accuracy (closeness of colors compared to what it's supposed to be), color uniformity across the panel and due to differences in viewing angle. These issues are related somewhat. For gaming, I would think that accuracy is not the highest priority, though egregious errors like blue looking purple would of course be bad. Color accuracy out of the box is more about factory calibration than the panel technology; that said, for best results—better than I think is warranted by just gaming—you need to do calibration with hardware on your own. If you're confident with eyeballing with some sliders for a rough fix that's decent enough, then possibly factory calibration is not such a big deal.

What kind of level of motion blurring would you consider the U2312HM to have? You're not going to get much much better with any *VA / IPS / PLS monitor; there's plenty worse out there.
post #4 of 11
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I can play fine games on a VA BenQ GW2450HM ? I received a call from benq and the lady said that this model is not meant to be played games.

I had an DELL IPS before and i played games well, why i cannot play on that benq too ? And i want better colors too, because now i have an overpriced TN panel and the colors are washed out and very poor.
And the lady recommended me the 3D monitor from benq if i want games, and that monitors are TN's.

So it will be that slow in gaming a VA panel, GW2450HM. Or gimme another monitor with VA.



EDIT: I had in the past two U2312HM, but they turned to be some kind of junk, the white colors were absolutely nasty, on right side was white pure, and on left side and bottom left was a yellow white, and on forums i saw that, and was absolutely disgusting, and i RMA the first one and i got another one with the same problems, i think was the revision the fault, so NO, i'm not getting the same model from DELL.

Also, on tft central they reviewed the GW2450HM, and the review overall came up to be decent and nice.
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post #5 of 11
I prefer VA for movies and games. BenQ's VA panels are great for the money. If response time is an issue you can turn off the image processing. IMO, IPS would be better than VA if the contrast ratio was better. As of now you have to pay a lot to get an IPS panel that comes close to VA's black levels.

Since you have a BenQ G monitor you ought to consider getting one of the 27" VA monitors they have.

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post #6 of 11
BenQ EW2730. Fantastic image quality for the money. I've owned a lot of BenQ monitors in different price ranges both before and after they merged with Samsung and I've never been disappointed.

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post #7 of 11
The problem with VA panels is the disgustingly high response time.

IPS is already bad enough in that aspect (Although bearable if you're not too picky), but VA is just excessive.
   
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post #8 of 11
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Yeah i agree response time on VA. But this is on paper, i have a friend who has a 27" benq VA, and he played games and didn't saw ghosting or the issue from the 12ms real response time.


So i had the U2312HM, and i will NOT getting anymore that.

Right now i really want an IPS (for gaming, movies, browsing) or a VA for the exact same thing. I dont want anymore TN panels because the colors are really washed out, and as i said i paid a premium price for a TN and the monitor has poor colors. As i said when i had that DELL IPS, i played games and i didn't saw a difference in response time, so on a VA i should not get any issues....

Right now the best and cheap options i have are IPS: Asus VS239HR VA: BenQ GW2450HM

And another thing i notice, on benq official site on GW2750HM says that has Pixel Pitch (mm) 0.311

And on GW2450HM says that has 0.276

Will be that much of a difference, if i push the budget to get that 27" monitor ?
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You won't notice it after using it for a while if you notice at all. Pixel density doesn't matter much unless you're doing image editing or sitting a few inches from the screen.

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If you want fast, you're pretty much going to have to buy a TN panel. The fastest IPS panel I can think of is 5ms. As far as colors/contrast/viewing angles, VA is pretty much right inbetween TN and IPS. wink.gif

Thats not going to cause a noticeable input lag. Its the actual firmware that varies by display that cause high amounts of input lag. Thats what you really need to look at.

I really like my catleap Q270 single input. I don't notice any input lag on this display. I would also consider the monoprice single input.

Those Benq VA displays seem nice but I would be worried about overshoot.
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