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Hello

So I want to thank anyone/everyone in advance for any help.

I'm looking into building/buying a server, and I'm looking for suggestions and comments on hardware I already have and where I should go from here.

First, as it says in the sticky, the server is defined by it's use. I will use this as:
1. Media server (primary function, two XBMCs in the house as of now, two other people, but should not need to feed more than two or three streams simultaneously. I currently have 3TB data, mix of HD and SD)
2. Hold backups for other computers.
3. TF2/Valve server (occasionally, small games, family and such. I've hosted games before on my desktop, so I know my upstream is sufficient for this purpose)

Desires:
Minimizing power consumption is essential, as this is a SOHO setup. Power redundancy and 24/7 uptime is not as important
Data redundancy, probably Raid 5, but I'm open to suggestion

Here's the hardware I already have
4x 2TB WD Reds
2x 2TB WD Greens
2x 2TB Seagate Barracuda LPs (Year or so old, maybe 18mo, equivalent to the Greens from what I can tell)
Familiarity enough with Linux to be comfortable not buying Windows Server. Probably Debian.
Edit: I also have Antec Earthwatts EA-650 I could use


I have a computer I can cannibalize for this purpose:

i3-2120T
8GB DDR3-1600
Intel DH61AG
500GB Laptop WD Blue (I think)

Given the above, here are my questions.

1. Should I cannibalize that computer? It's low power, but it doesn't support Raid or ECC memory. I would need to buy a PSU and a case, and I think a Raid card? I know the motherboard only has two Sata ports, and I don't know if it would work with a port expander.
2. Would I be better off buying something like the HP Proliant N40L, and loading it up with the Reds? Would it be desirable to have the ECC memory support? Would this be cheaper than buying a PSU, Case, and a Raid card?
3. Would I be better off just buying a prebuilt NAS, and continue to host any Valve games directly? Synology maybe?

Thank you for any input. Trying to figure out what the best upgrade path is. Right now my data is on an old Netgear Stora that's started acting up as of late, and I think I want to move away from it in the next month or two.
Edited by avesdude - 1/25/13 at 10:27am
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i3 3240
P67 mATX Board
Corsair Builder Series 430Watt
8gb 1333/1600 DDR3
pcie - sata adapter


The above would work nicely with your current rig


link- http://www.ebuyer.com/262166-startech-com-2-port-mini-pci-express-internal-sata-ii-controller-card-mpexsata22i?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=CJ7E1qqkgrUCFeTMtAodLTMABg

would this suit you?
     
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I would use the components you listed for the above,meets all your needs without spending much more $$.I'd look at a plain old x1 HBA card for extra sata ports.Run software raid with the Debian distro you choose,or if you go windows flexraid or snapraid are solid options.For a case checkout the Lian Li Q08B/Q25B or the Fractal Design 304.The Rosewill 450M is a great little modular psu that would suit your needs.Configure and call it a day.

As for using it to run a game server,I'm sure it would run just fine.I've seen others here using Pentium 4's so.But I'm sure someone with better knowledge on that subject will chime in.You don't really need ECC memory for home use,and the pre-built NAS cost more usually and offer half the function most of the time.So IMHO build it yourself.
 
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post #4 of 17
If your just hosting games and don't need weird plugins or stat tracking you can easily host a 32 player server with that hardware.

My opinion on ECC is if your purchasing new hardware then get a motherboard that will support ECC memory. If your not going to upgrade hardware what you have will be fine.
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by reezin14 View Post

I would use the components you listed for the above,meets all your needs without spending much more $$.I'd look at a plain old x1 HBA card for extra sata ports.Run software raid with the Debian distro you choose,or if you go windows flexraid or snapraid are solid options.For a case checkout the Lian Li Q08B/Q25B or the Fractal Design 304.The Rosewill 450M is a great little modular psu that would suit your needs.Configure and call it a day.

As for using it to run a game server,I'm sure it would run just fine.I've seen others here using Pentium 4's so.But I'm sure someone with better knowledge on that subject will chime in.You don't really need ECC memory for home use,and the pre-built NAS cost more usually and offer half the function most of the time.So IMHO build it yourself.

So you would recommend something like this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124064
And then running the Reds? Software RAID seems to be far cheaper than a true raid card.

The Lian Li Q25B is what I originally looked at. And I actually have an extra Antec Earthwatts I could drop in and save on the power supply. This would bring my net cost to something like $150, since the Lian Li is even on sale right now.
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Originally Posted by Pedroc1999 View Post

i3 3240
P67 mATX Board
Corsair Builder Series 430Watt
8gb 1333/1600 DDR3
pcie - sata adapter


The above would work nicely with your current rig


link- http://www.ebuyer.com/262166-startech-com-2-port-mini-pci-express-internal-sata-ii-controller-card-mpexsata22i?utm_source=google&utm_medium=products&gclid=CJ7E1qqkgrUCFeTMtAodLTMABg

would this suit you?

That could be really good too, since I would have 4x ports and could get away without a riser card. I'll have to try to find a US source for that as a comparison.
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Hope you liked it, that should last a while because your demand for multithread things arent too big. Glad i helped
     
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What you have to "Cannibalize" is perfect for your uses. No need to do slight upgrades. A p67 board will more than likely need a bios update to support ivy, so unless you want to put your spare sandy i3 in there first, I would advise against it. it is more pain than what it is worth.

The main problem I see is that the board is going to limit you, you only have 2 sata ports on the board, you can probably get an a mini-pcie card for 2 more and then you are looking for a 4 port pcie x4 card, this way you can support all 8 HDDs you have.
http://www.amazon.com/StarTech-com-Express-Internal-Controller-MPEXSATA22I/dp/B004NNRRN8
http://www.neweggbusiness.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124027&nm_mc=KNC-GoogleBiz&cm_mmc=KNC-GoogleBiz-_-pla-_-Controllers+%2f+RAID+Cards-_-N82E16816124027&gclid=CPC64d6YhLUCFdOf4Aod4mkAiQ

Next you are going to want a case with 8 HDD bays, which might limit you since you are using an ITX board, The NZXT Tempest supports 8 HDDs and an ITX board
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B005MMW4FA/?tag=pcpapi-20
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Spend $30-$50 and get a PERC 5i or PERC 6i for the HDDs and set up an array.
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or he could sell his rig for maybe £80 and get the parts i mentiones, this would be the easiest way and problably most safe way to achieve what he wants
     
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