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6 pages of people entertaining the idea of the PS4 being light years beyond PC? Come on. lol
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Originally Posted by Assirra View Post

I hope he is telling the truth.
For way to long consoles have been holding PC back so maybe developers will finally use all that fancy tech that has been piling up.
A lot of games made today are still just dx9 games for instance.

Make the new consoles those uber duper hyper thingies, we will pass it in a couple years and have better looking games anyway tongue.gif

Consoles are holding back PCs somewhat, but it's also insanely hard to make leaps in graphical technology without making the game run like crap for most of your consumers...Most developers don't want to make a Crysis because a lot of people thought they'd never be able to run it. (There's also the fact that a number of people thought it was all glamour and no substance, due to most of the effort being put into graphics...You can only put so much time into a game unless you want it to be like Half Life 3 or Duke Nukem Forever, most would rather concentrate on gameplay, MP, or the story)
    
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This is because low level hardware access. You would be surprised what hardware can do if you can actually access every little bit of it.
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lol too bad the PC will advance too fast and will be lightyears ahead of ps4.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by coupe View Post

The problem with current gen consoles isn't the GPU, it's the amount of RAM. Low-level programming is extraordinarily powerful.

Low level programming also takes a larger magnitude of lines of code in a program. Meaning that development costs will go up since games will take longer to release.

Also an interesting fact, the average programmer at work only types 20 lines of useful code a day.

To put this into perspective here is a machine level langauge for the IBM Z390.

This program adds two preset numbers:
Code:
PRINT NOGEN
EQUREGS
ADD SUBENTRY
L R2,ONE
A R2,TWO
XPRNT MSG,L'MSG
XDECO R2,OUT
XPRNT OUT,L'OUT
SUBEXIT
MSG DC C'Adding Numbers'
ONE DC F'1'
TWO DC F'2'
OUT DS CL12
END

Highly efficent and fast at run time, but takes ages compared to a high level program to code.

Heres an another example of the same concept, but with user input to change variables in Python.
Code:
C = lambda n, k : n + k

I'm not saying low level coding isn't great for getting things to run efficient and fast, it just isn't pratical in the way businesses are run today.

I should also note debugging on machine level code is a lot harder than it is on its high level language counterpart.
Edited by Bobicon - 1/26/13 at 7:48pm
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"Light years ahead of PC"? Should we assume it's going to have a $800 - $1200 price tag on launch and for a couple of years after initial release?
    
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Hahahaha thanks for the laugh!
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This is a load of crap and sounds like its been written by someone who is clearly against Microsoft.

Years ahead? I'm sorry, there is a reason I brought a $2200 PC. Because it kicks the crap out of current consoles.

When they say years ahead, does it mean computers that were purchased three years ago.

Yes I have an XBOX 360 and I will continue to use an XBOX 360. Why? Because when I am done with my games, I am free to resell them as I please, with news that the PS4's are trying to get games locked to the console, it makes me not want to buy any PlayStation gear, no matter how many years ahead it is.

Lets just say that the PS4 will use some new beaut video card. Yeah, so what, i guarantee you within a 6 month period, the PC will bring out something more powerful.

It will be interesting to see what the XBOX 720 will bring, maybe they are smart enough not to make ridiculous claims against the PC market
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Will believe it, when I see it.
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"Light years ahead of PC"? Should we assume it's going to have a $800 - $1200 price tag on launch and for a couple of years after initial release?

You do realize consoles are sold at loss and the parts cost less than they would for a PC to boot? If it cost $800 to build an equivalent PC, I'd see the PS4 launching at $400 or so, $200 saved from bulk buying all of the parts and $200 taken as a loss until hardware costs decrease enough to make it a profit. (Which took MS 4 years on the 360)

It's funny seeing the PC Fanboy rage here, considering it's normal for consoles to be either around as fast or a bit slower than a high-end PC in gaming at launch...This will definitely be faster than a PC too, a lot of the hardware is off the shelf PC hardware in a different configuration if rumours are to be believed so it'd be much easier to manually optimize at launch than the PPC CPU and half RV520, half R600 GPU in the 360, it definitely will be head and shoulders above of any PC at the same price range (Even if you take the TV cost into account, I could just use a PC monitor as most have HDMI input these days anyway) and probably match most current single GPU systems in gaming.
    
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