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So, with a bunch of new technology around the corner (Haswell, I'm lookin' at you), I've decided to start planning my eventual future in custom loop water cooling, and the upgrades that'll go along with my new tubes/pipes/whatnot biggrin.gif
So, I put it to you gentlemen, to help out a first-timer in selecting components. I've done tons of research, and I've settled on these parts so far. A quick note though, they are subject to change if there are better options out there, so if there's anything off with this set up, do let me know.

The Gear

Alphacool NexXxoS UT60 - $99

XSPC Dual 5.25” Bay Reservoir/Pump Combo w/ D5 Vario - $150

PrimoChill Base Intensified High Purity Deionized Water UV Brite Green - $11

XSPC Razor nVidia GTX 680 Full Coverage VGA Block Reference Design - $100 x2

Corsair Air Series SP120 High Performance Edition High Static Pressure 120mm Fan 2 pack - $29 x 4

Alphacool NexXxoS ST30 Full Copper Slim Profile Single 120mm Radiator - $40

XSPC Raystorm Special Edition Copper CPU Block - $119

PrimoChill PrimoFlex Advance LRT 3/8" x 5/8"

Bitspower Matte Black Ultimate Compression Fittings

There are two options for my upgrade path, both of which I will highlight for you guys:

Option 1: Haswell

This wouldn't change much of the set up for the loop, with the exception of a Haswell CPU block. If I choose this path, I'd basically get a new motherboard, and obviously a new Haswell 'K' series i7 chip.
I'm running a 3770K right now, and quite frankly, at 4.3 GHz, it's really no slouch. I will only go with this option if Haswell is much faster clock-by-clock, or if it has higher OC headroom.

Here is my planned WC loop if I decide on option 1:


I hope I got the layout right, this is all from what I've read, but I need someone with experience to tell me how it'll perform IRL.

Option 2: Add a Second GTX 680

Quite simple, if I do not get Haswell, I will get a second GTX 680.

Layout for SLI WC loop:



And last, but not the least, I've selected parts which, I believe, are 1/4". Now, which tubes, connectors and fittings do I have to have? Because that's the only bit I'm a little lost about.

Cheers smile.gif
Edited by Frumby - 1/25/13 at 10:14am
post #2 of 20
Go for option 2, you'll get much more performance.

Maybe you'll want to add another 240mm Radiator at the bottom.
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post #3 of 20
If i were you i would go for option 2 as well as i dont really see much of a need to upgrade from a 3770k to a haswell (unless as you say it is much faster).

also, im not much of a fan of putting small rads on the rear exhaust. 1) i dont think it looks particularly good and 2) i have an antec kuhler 920 on my rear exhaust and i am of the opinion that it covers my vrms too much an there isnt much airflow around them. But thats just my opinion.

I would add a 240 in the bottom and 2 tube routing holes in the midplate.
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Unfortunately, I'm not too great with cutting metal, and, being 16, I don't think my mom would be too happy about it either.. tongue.gif
I worked my ass off to pay for all this stuff, how much extra would a dremel cost, anyway?
But I love Quad Damage, it looks beast!
post #5 of 20
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Unfortunately, I'm not too great with cutting metal, and, being 16, I don't think my mom would be too happy about it either.. tongue.gif
I worked my ass off to pay for all this stuff, how much extra would a dremel cost, anyway?
But I love Quad Damage, it looks beast!

Do you already have that case? There's cases out there that will require less modding, you certainly don't need a dremel to set up a WC rig.

Regarding the tubing/fittings: I use 7/16" tubing over 1/2" barbs. I put the tips of the tube in boiling water for a minute to soften the tube up, then lube the end of tube w/ a tiny amount of dishsoap, and slide it over the barb. Once the tube cools, it fits on the barb so snug that you have to cut the tubing off if you want to remove it. It looks very clean and doesn't require any zip ties or clamps, and is much cheaper than compression fittings. The barbs I use are Bitspower matte black, and primochill tubing.
post #6 of 20
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Yeah, I already (unfortunately/fortunately) own the 800D. Lovely case, really really is.
Ahh, I love the look of the Bitspower matte blacks, they just look MEAN.
Huh, that's an interesting idea..
So, a regular WC setup would, for 1/4" barbs, use 1/4x3/8 tubing with a same sized compression fitting, yes? That's how the tubing goes?
post #7 of 20
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Unfortunately, I'm not too great with cutting metal, and, being 16, I don't think my mom would be too happy about it either.. tongue.gif
I worked my ass off to pay for all this stuff, how much extra would a dremel cost, anyway?
But I love Quad Damage, it looks beast!

Ask a neighbor, a friend or bring the case to a friends house that has the tools. I'd also go with option 2. Don't waste 400$ on a new cpu when you have one that still has plenty of oumph. Spend the extra money on cooling parts and graphic cards. thumb.gif
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post #8 of 20
The most common "Thread" that everyone have these days is G 1/4 "





Let's take for example 1/2" ID , 3/4" OD fittings and/or tubing

ID: Inner Diameter
OD: Outter Diameter




So you'll need "G1/4" 1/2ID and 3/4OD" Compression fittings






If you want barbs fittings you don't need to pay attention to Outter Diameter if you use Zip Tie, pay attention to clamp size if you need some


Edited by KaRLiToS - 1/25/13 at 9:21am
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post #9 of 20
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Sounds fair. Is there a guide for doing that here on the forums?
I'll come up with a new plan for the tubing then, I'll post it up here tomorrow, after I take my SATs tongue.gif
post #10 of 20
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Ahhh, okay, that clears up a lot, now I'll pick some tubing and I'll get back to you guys! Thanks Karlitos!
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