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It'd be butthurt if the results of the "review" were, in any form, true.
They are true. You just disagree with the setups and methods in which he acquired them and you'd like him to do it differently.

So, in any form, you're in luck.
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post #112 of 310
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There is way too much butthurt in this thread
'Real world results
So let me guess? All of these people, who own both Intel and AMD cpus, are just fibbing about the obvious problems in this review?
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really....
Past about a h100 it does not matter. They just hit a wall where they get super hot on any cooling(24/7 cooling ofc).
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post #113 of 310
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But obviously it's Logan, so it must be true

No idea who that is, but these tests have two borked game tests. The others look fine, but FC3, in particular, I can attest to being wrong entirely. There is no way that game tested proeprly when it had less than 30FPS at 1080p, when I can get between 60-70 FXAA (50-60 with MSAA)
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post #114 of 310
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Cooling does not matter much with IVY. I got 4.6Ghz with 1.365v and got 82C Load. All CPUs are different.

I don't understand what you mean. I know all CPUs are different, but in the Ivy Bridge case, the thermal paste between the Chip and IHS is crap instead of solder. That makes them all similar.

I haven't really seen a i5 3570k over 4.6Ghz undelidded, that was my point and it was already off topic.
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post #115 of 310
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They are true. You just disagree with the setups and methods in which he acquired them and you'd like him to do it differently.

So, in any form, you're in luck.

No. I don't care that the FX was clocked higher. I don't care that the other games show the aMD chip on top.

what I care about is a superior CPU to mine, scoring worse in a game that I have, with a GPU I have, at the same clock speeds that I run. That is wrong. The test (of that game) is therefore whacked out because that is not at all right.

FACT:

The FC3 test is screwed up.
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really....

What i mean is after a certain point having better cooling does not help. For example a High end air cooler would get same temps as water loop.
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post #117 of 310
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No. I don't care that the FX was clocked higher. I don't care that the other games show the aMD chip on top.

what I care about is a superior CPU to mine, scoring worse in a game that I have, with a GPU I have, at the same clock speeds that I run. That is wrong. The test (of that game) is therefore whacked out because that is not at all right.

FACT:

The FC3 test is screwed up.
No, you said you wish the numbers were in any form true.

They are.

You just don't like them and you don't like that the motherboard is throttling the CPU.
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What i mean is after a certain point having better cooling does not help. For example a High end air cooler would get same temps as water loop.
Yep you are right, it is talked about in this video as well for those interested Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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No, you said you wish the numbers were in any form true.

They are.

You just don't like them and you don't like that the motherboard is throttling the CPU.
So you admit to believing the mITX board is throttling the CPU?
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Cooling does not matter much with IVY. I got 4.6Ghz with 1.365v and got 82C Load. All CPUs are different.

Sorry, but I can't believe you posted this.

Cooling matters A LOT with Ivy. Those chips get hot. Having a fat heatsink or an enclosed water-loop does make a difference on how high you can go. The thing about Ivy is once you start cranking voltages, those temps shoot sky high. A cooler that is able to extract heat from the CPU more efficiently does wonders to how high you can go.
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What i mean is after a certain point having better cooling does not help. For example a High end air cooler would get same temps as water loop.

To an extent, you're right. On the other hand, no one here is going to argue against the fact that liquid @ room temperature carries heat better than a metal heatsink of any type. It's a thermodynamic property of liquids such as water and oil. The metal sink will never fully cool down to ambient, but water being carried away from the CPU can and will cool down to ambient temperature levels if used correctly. That's the reason why water cooling is so much better than metal heatsinks.
Edited by Mad Pistol - 1/25/13 at 4:44pm
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