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I dont even have to watch the video and can tell this guy doesnt know what he's doing, his far cry 3 benchmarks are so far off, 25 fps with a 3570k and a gtx 670@1080p where the 8350 gets 57fps? rolleyes.gif
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um well, they are both overclocked up about 1 ghz up so it is fair......again, ipc matters

I see, but in my humble opinion I think they should be compared at the same clock speeds. I mean it's not Intel's fault that AMD's IPC isn't very good.
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um well, they are both overclocked up about 1 ghz up so it is fair......again, ipc matters

Not really, especially since they have roughly the same overclock ceiling. That said, his numbers look way off from every reputable site out there. There's something weird going on. I love AMD and have built every computer until my current one with AMD, but something is off with his results.
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Fanboyism aside, review should be 8 cores vs 8 cores @ 4.5 ghz IMO
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They must be using HD4000 graphics for the FC3 tests. There is no way these are even remotely close.

Far Cry 3
Stock
AMD 1080p: 57.18
Intel 1080p: 25.84

Overclocked
AMD 1080p: 67.64
Intel 1080p: 31.16

Stock
AMD 1440p: 39.28
Intel 1440p: 16.12

Overclocked
AMD 1440p: 44.96
Intel 1440p: 18.32
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I see, but in my humble opinion I think they should be compared at the same clock speeds. I mean it's not Intel's fault that AMD's IPC isn't very good.
You are missing the point then, it would be unfair the 3570k would have gotten the advantage already thanks to the higher IPC. To leave the fx 8350 at 4.5ghz with a 3570k 5ghz, the AMD would only be overclocked 500mhz while the 4570k a whipping 1.1ghz and the 3570k has faster ipc at stock anyway, so comparing a 5ghz amd to the 4.5ghz 3570k seems fair
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If I were you, I'd just pull the plug on this thread right now, for exactly the reasons you stated above.

We all know it's going to end badly.

Preemptive moderating is something that's usually frowned upon. If the thread goes bad it'll get locked.
 
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IMHO you clould really go wrong with either AMD or Intel at this point and time.

It all comes down to budget, personal preference and the joys of overclocking

Skyrim runs pretty well on my rig so I'm not complaining (Especially after the latest AMD beta drivers haha)
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Fanboyism aside, review should be 8 cores vs 8 cores @ 4.5 ghz IMO

4.5GHz, yes, 8 core vs 8 core, no. The only octo-core CPUs from Intel are their server CPUs. If you're referencing logical cores that you see from Hyperthreading, that doesn't really make a difference in most games out there. The advantage that the i7-3770k has is an extra 2MB L3 cache and a higher stock clock speed. There are very few games I know (off the top of my head, only Resident Evil 5 comes to mind) that see any gain from Hyperthreading.

I think the FX-8350 vs i5-3570k is a perfectly valid comparison since they populate the same price point. You should, however, do a clock for clock comparison like you said and do a max overclock comparison. Both should cap out around 5GHz.
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How its possible amd wins in this game on stock from the moment that is a 2 thread game.Also that intel mobo rolleyes.gif
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