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post #11 of 33
I have owned a M4 for a year now and the date it is expected to die is still the same, 2021. Doubtful the non pro would only be four years, and hard drives may have a long theoretical limit but I have had many physically fail in as few as 3 years. You will probably retire the drive before it dies of old age.
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Well, I would be wondering for client builds. I don't want to be putting SSDs in client's computers and having them lose all their data because they are too lazy / uneducated on how to back up data. Almost 90% of the time, when I get calls for people not being able to boot, the HDD is just needing a CHKDSK, and I go over the idea that there drive may be going out....and they get to back up their data. However with SSD, my understanding is...there isn't much of a warning. And general users will not be swapping out computer every two to four years. I guess the argument is that general users won't need a SSD. The performance boost for the price from them is rather remarkable though, and can help an old PC get boosted quite a bit. rolleyes.gif
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I understand that all storage is prone to failure, however - SSD seems to be much more prone? In addition, it seems to have a lifespan, where HDD just say eh...10-15 years, and when they go out, they usually get bits messed up...and data is recoverable before it croaks. SSD just ... seems to be gone? Or does it imitate the same failing signs?
Actually SSDs would be the same as a HDD, most issues with them now is their firmware programming and their controllers dying out rather than the actually NAND being written to too much. After the NAND is written to its max all the data will still be readable, its just most SSDs now never reach that point and die due to other issues rather than NAND endurance.
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Right, and with the firmware issues....doesn't that just make the drive fail miserably?
post #15 of 33
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Right, and with the firmware issues....doesn't that just make the drive fail miserably?

Samsung culled those firmware issues IIRC last month or early this month with a firmware update for both versions of the 840s as IIRC they both suffered early deaths. As phil-whir said the only reason for buying the Pro is if you write large amounts of data daily and need it to be written fast. The 840 should last plenty long so long as the controller (like Sean said) doesn't die. But again...this is probably as likely with any other SSD. Since I wouldn't trust either with anything besides programs, OS, or games (and those are the only things that most of us need SSDs for) I don't see a the write speed being too important. Still it's up to you.
     
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Right, and with the firmware issues....doesn't that just make the drive fail miserably?
Which one? Some drives are better or worse than others. HDDs have firmware issues and controllers that fail as well...
post #17 of 33
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Well, I quickly canceled my order a few minutes after posting this because I knew that I wouldn't need the PRO for any real reason. Still considering the non pro 840.... $80 seems like 20-25% less than normal. Is this not really going to be the case redface.gif? I'd consider buying used SSDs in the future, but I won't know what controller they have or how long they have been used...so I figure I'd always purchase new SSDs when the chance comes. thumb.gif
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Well, I quickly canceled my order a few minutes after posting this because I knew that I wouldn't need the PRO for any real reason. Still considering the non pro 840.... $80 seems like 20-25% less than normal. Is this not really going to be the case redface.gif? I'd consider buying used SSDs in the future, but I won't know what controller they have or how long they have been used...so I figure I'd always purchase new SSDs when the chance comes. thumb.gif

Where are you getting the 840 for $80? That isn't a super deal but that's the best I've seen on it since it came out at near that price. If the pro were $1/GB or less I'd be fine with it. Happy would be the pro for 80 but that will never happen.
     
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http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Jan-0-2013/storagesale25/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL012513&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012513-_-EMC-012513-Index-_-E0-_-Refurb#Refurb

Sign up for the promo emails as well. If you don't see the drive scroll up some.

Oh hey its out of stock, good reason to buy the pro.
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http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail/Jan-0-2013/storagesale25/index-landing.html?nm_mc=EMC-IGNEFL012513&cm_mmc=EMC-IGNEFL012513-_-EMC-012513-Index-_-E0-_-Refurb#Refurb

Sign up for the promo emails as well. If you don't see the drive scroll up some.

Oh hey its out of stock, good reason to buy the pro.

WHOLY MTFs!!! Why has newegg stopped emailing me! I'm on their damn list still and they're not in the spam box! WRRRRRYYYY!!! mad.gif
     
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