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well as you can see from the picture it fits and it just clears my rams without issues so unless your rams are fat you wont have issues. standard fan will fit well for the ISK110. I use a different fan because my case is the ISK100 which has a stock 90mm protruding side fan which i didnt like and prone to breaking when you fit it in a bag so i replaced it with a internal 120mm slim fan.

i'm no longer using the stock PSU and have replaced it with a 160-XT from minibox. you just have to drill/grind out the stock PSU plug hole for the larger 4pin plug if you wish to use the original PSU hole

That's great man - thank you for that! biggrin.gif
post #102 of 213
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Originally Posted by Wall View Post


Also, I don't get it; we cannot install ANY aftermarket cooler that has its own back-plate? That's pretty much ALL coolers! I've also purchased the Zalman LQ-310 cooler which I intend to install on a mini ITX case. Would that mean that I'm screwed, and need another cooler? Why is that?

This is exactly the situation i am in.

i wanted to make a new home build, nothing too fancy and have it in a sff case with 7 hdds. i was thinking on lian-li q08.

i was truly glad that asrock came up with this min-itx that has a good gpu and 7 sata ports.

i did my research and i was ready to purchase all the parts when i saw that i could not install the cooler i have chosen (nh-l12).

up until now i was not able to find a cooler that would fit in a small case and would be quite while keeping the cpu cool as most aftermarket solutions require a back-plate.

i saw in a post from a Chinese or Japanese guy that he had on this motherboard a samuel17.

i do not know how he installed it, i.e. if tricks are needed or if it can be installed as is out of the box. Given that i do not have many small spare parts laying around (screws, washers etc.) i would rather have something that would not require additional construction or if somebody can help on how a specific cooler can be installed that would be appreciated.

has anybody found any decent and quite cooler/cooling solutions that fit the FM2A85X-ITX as is?
post #103 of 213
i'm pretty sure you can install coolers with backplate. i'm currently using the FM1A75m-ITX (almost identical layout) and i can fit a H50 to it. the back is pretty clean and free of obstacles, however you do have to remove the stock mounting brackets. its a simple pushpin design
post #104 of 213
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Originally Posted by Madpacket View Post

I tried out the 30nm Samsung sticks. I achieved RAM stability at 2133mhz @ 1.375 volts using default timings. 2400mhz would not boot even at 1.6 volts. These modules do not have XMP support so manual tweaking is necessary. I need to play around with them more but 2133 @ that voltage is pretty decent considering.

Hmm, I suppose I won't have to sell that kit after all. 2133MHz is no small feat, and can only get better with the 6800k or with Kaveri's! Let me know if you push them any further than that.

(I suppose you use the 1.20 BIOS version, cause it's said to improve compatibility with this particular Samsung RAM kit (4GB is mentioned) in the official ASRock website)
Edited by Wall - 2/18/13 at 8:35am
post #105 of 213
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Originally Posted by akromatic View Post

i'm pretty sure you can install coolers with backplate. i'm currently using the FM1A75m-ITX (almost identical layout) and i can fit a H50 to it. the back is pretty clean and free of obstacles, however you do have to remove the stock mounting brackets. its a simple pushpin design

i was thinking of the H60-2013 edition, but on several videos i saw that a back-plate was used on an amd motherboard. i therefore emailed corsair just to be on the safe side. as soon as i have a reply i will post it.
post #106 of 213
What kind of stable underclock/volts have people been able to achieve on the board? I want to stuff this thing in the smallest, quietest, coolest, enclosure possible without having overheating and stability issues. If I can't get this thing down some on the heat and fan noise, I may have to go with an ivy bridge build.
Currently I've got the ASRock mATX board (FM2A85X Extreme4-M) running in my living room HTPC, but the temps are not impressing me. I wouldn't mind at least having a good place to start.

Also, to better clarify. I want to pick up this board for another HTPC build, but won't until I am sure I can get the thermal envelope down.
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Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB Asus BD-ROM BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Win7 Ult 64bit 
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Vertex 2 120GB Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB Asus BD-ROM BC-12B1ST/BLK/B/AS Win7 Ult 64bit 
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post #107 of 213
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Originally Posted by Wall View Post

Hmm, I suppose I won't have to sell that kit after all. 2133MHz is no small feat, and can only get better with the 6800k or with Kaveri's! Let me know if you push them any further than that.

(I suppose you use the 1.20 BIOS version, cause it's said to improve compatibility with this particular Samsung RAM kit (4GB is mentioned) in the official ASRock website)

Yes I upgraded to the newer 1.2 BIOS before testing the Samsung modules as I saw the same note about the improvements. I haven't really had much time to get back to testing further but I've another 5800K coming this week so it should help me determine if my existing 5800K has a weak IMC or if in fact the memory modules are to blame. I'll post my findings once done.
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Originally Posted by AMv8(1day) View Post

What kind of stable underclock/volts have people been able to achieve on the board? I want to stuff this thing in the smallest, quietest, coolest, enclosure possible without having overheating and stability issues. If I can't get this thing down some on the heat and fan noise, I may have to go with an ivy bridge build.
Currently I've got the ASRock mATX board (FM2A85X Extreme4-M) running in my living room HTPC, but the temps are not impressing me. I wouldn't mind at least having a good place to start.

Also, to better clarify. I want to pick up this board for another HTPC build, but won't until I am sure I can get the thermal envelope down.

I was in the same boat a few weeks ago. Long story short yes you can undervolt enough with this board and maintain good speeds and lower temperatures. Please refer to my prior posts to see some basic results.
post #108 of 213
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Originally Posted by mh76 View Post

This is exactly the situation i am in.

i wanted to make a new home build, nothing too fancy and have it in a sff case with 7 hdds. i was thinking on lian-li q08.

i was truly glad that asrock came up with this min-itx that has a good gpu and 7 sata ports.

i did my research and i was ready to purchase all the parts when i saw that i could not install the cooler i have chosen (nh-l12).

up until now i was not able to find a cooler that would fit in a small case and would be quite while keeping the cpu cool as most aftermarket solutions require a back-plate.

i saw in a post from a Chinese or Japanese guy that he had on this motherboard a samuel17.

i do not know how he installed it, i.e. if tricks are needed or if it can be installed as is out of the box. Given that i do not have many small spare parts laying around (screws, washers etc.) i would rather have something that would not require additional construction or if somebody can help on how a specific cooler can be installed that would be appreciated.

has anybody found any decent and quite cooler/cooling solutions that fit the FM2A85X-ITX as is?

It's actually pretty easy and safe to install a cooler with or without the back plate as long as you take precautions. I ended up mounting the new Noctua low profile cooler NHL-9a http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608030 which successfully cools my undervolted 5800K APU well.

If you want to use the back plate (and I would with the oversized cooler you've chosen) you simply need to create space between the back side of the motherboard so the protruding surface mount hardware do not get crushed. I ended up using some rubber feet spacers (taken from an older 1155 mounting kit) which worked fine.
post #109 of 213
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Originally Posted by AMv8(1day) View Post

What kind of stable underclock/volts have people been able to achieve on the board? I want to stuff this thing in the smallest, quietest, coolest, enclosure possible without having overheating and stability issues. If I can't get this thing down some on the heat and fan noise, I may have to go with an ivy bridge build.
Currently I've got the ASRock mATX board (FM2A85X Extreme4-M) running in my living room HTPC, but the temps are not impressing me. I wouldn't mind at least having a good place to start.

Also, to better clarify. I want to pick up this board for another HTPC build, but won't until I am sure I can get the thermal envelope down.

I'm running a A10 5800k at 5700 clocks as a means to preserve my board(older A75M-ITX). iirc im using 1.15v and IMO the temps are rather decent for the setup that i have.

your CPU cooler matters alot. I dont think you can go smaller and quieter then i've done so far and i think its pretty stable and its definitely not throttling. as far as temps go im currently idling around 40deg and load would not exceed 65deg with a low profile cooler and slim fan. a thicker fan would probly provide a better temp but thats a sacrifice i had to make to shove it in the ISK100. if you use a tower cooler or in my case a H50(just for testing) load temps are around 45deg

none the less my tolerance for an acceptable temperature may not be the same as yours as i know many will just freak out at 50deg load temps when the CPU is meant to take it up to around 80deg


i'll be getting my hands on the A85X-ITX soon and will see how i go with that one
post #110 of 213
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Originally Posted by Madpacket View Post

It's actually pretty easy and safe to install a cooler with or without the back plate as long as you take precautions. I ended up mounting the new Noctua low profile cooler NHL-9a http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608030 which successfully cools my undervolted 5800K APU well.

If you want to use the back plate (and I would with the oversized cooler you've chosen) you simply need to create space between the back side of the motherboard so the protruding surface mount hardware do not get crushed. I ended up using some rubber feet spacers (taken from an older 1155 mounting kit) which worked fine.

first off thanks for the advice

as i wrote in a previous post i am also considering the h60-2013 edition.

i am currently leaning towards this since i read that it has good and quiet performance while leaving the motherboard rather uncluttered in comparison to the nh-l12.

Moreover from a closer inspection it seems that it does not need a back-plate since it locks of the default base that already exists on the motherboard. if i am wrong please correct me

Finally excuse my ignorance for asking this, but i see a lot of users that under-volt their cpu or run it like a a5700. Is not this like demoting/cutting down the performance potential of the cpu? i understand that this will bring heat and power consumption down but if somebody is looking for something like the a5700 why not buy this directly? Again i am asking because i do not see the point in doing that as a permanent thing.
Edited by mh76 - 2/19/13 at 12:15pm
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