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Stock cooler or Thermaltake A4022?

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I've got a Phenom II X4 965 BE on the way and I was wondering if the stock cooler is better than this cooler I bought back in '07. Thoughts?

After-market
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835106135

Stock
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103727&Tpk=deneb%20965
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the aftermarket would cool within margin of error...
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the aftermarket would cool within margin of error...
??????????

If this is the stock cooler you are getting it will perform better than the Thermaltake


Sometimes reversing the fan will lower temps. Reason is stock it pushes air toward mobo. If the hot exhaust from cooler is deflected back away from mobo by RAM, GPU, etc. it can circle back into fan. When you reverse the fan so it pulls air from cooler and away from mobo the hot air coming out of fan is picked up by case airflow towards back and top exhuast vents and moves out of case.

I've lowered CPU temps 5-8c in some cases by reversing the fan. wink.gif
Edited by doyll - 1/26/13 at 3:51am
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the aftermarket would cool within margin of error...

Thanks for trying to help but I have no idea what you're getting at here.

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??????????

If this is the stock cooler you are getting it will perform better than the Thermaltake


Sometimes reversing the fan will lower temps. Reason is stock it pushes air toward mobo. If the hot exhaust from cooler is deflected back away from mobo by RAM, GPU, etc. it can circle back into fan. When you reverse the fan so it pulls air from cooler and away from mobo the hot air coming out of fan is picked up by case airflow towards back and top exhuast vents and moves out of case.

I've lowered CPU temps 5-8c in some cases by reversing the fan. wink.gif

I'm not 100% on what the stock cooler looks like, but I want to say I've seen pictures that look very similar to that one.

As for reversing the fan, is that just a matter of plugging it in in reverse on the board? I'm not new to building computers, but I've never spent as much time as I should on my cooling. I'm currently using a pretty old case that I can't even find a brand name on anywhere. The only two fan mounts I can find on it are 80mm on the back. I have them exhausting currently. I also just grabbed a 120mm to hopefully find a way to mount in front of my hard drive bay and push air over them. I was considering adding a mod to the door panel to add another 120mm there, was planning to look for some kind of guide today about that. Any suggestions?
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Thanks for trying to help but I have no idea what you're getting at here.
None of us do. rolleyes.gif He probably doesn't either. biggrin.gif
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I'm not 100% on what the stock cooler looks like, but I want to say I've seen pictures that look very similar to that one.

As for reversing the fan, is that just a matter of plugging it in in reverse on the board? I'm not new to building computers, but I've never spent as much time as I should on my cooling. I'm currently using a pretty old case that I can't even find a brand name on anywhere. The only two fan mounts I can find on it are 80mm on the back. I have them exhausting currently. I also just grabbed a 120mm to hopefully find a way to mount in front of my hard drive bay and push air over them. I was considering adding a mod to the door panel to add another 120mm there, was planning to look for some kind of guide today about that. Any suggestions?

I think that's the stock cooler you will get.

As for reversing the fan you remove the fan and turn it over. I'm guessing it's either screwed onto the black frame that is clipped onto aluminium heatsink or you unclip the clipped on bit, then turn the fan over.

Hopefully someone familiar with it can explain how to do it.

As for modding your case post up some pics and maybe I can give you some ideas. I've added fans to many cases. Cut holes in bottom, top, sides, front. and removed stock vent grills is easy if you have the right tools.

Where are you on our big blue marble?
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I'm in Missouri, in the states. I need to just buy a new case but I wont be able to do that for a while. Plans are to eventually get the HAF 932 I believe.

I'm currently running a raid migration, but when it's done I have to pull it out to swap a hard drive anyway so I'll try to grab some pictures then. I know it needs some serious work though in the air flow department so any advice you have once I get the pictures up would be great.

I was considering a top fan as well if I can find the right spot.
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post #7 of 16
I spend I spend 6 months there on summer month. Hot and humid.. then it would rain. Still better than Texas. biggrin.gif

What do you have access to in the way of tools to rape, pillage and burn your case into shape with?

Some of the people I met there had done so much with so little for so long they could build almost anything with almost nothing. biggrin.gif
Edited by doyll - 1/26/13 at 11:07am
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Pretty much anything through friends and family. Quick access would be a rotary tool with multiple different heads that I have here at home. It should be able to take care of the cutting I would think.

The door as a window panel on it so it should be fairly easy to cut into I would think.

And yeah, it gets rough during the summer, but right now it's like 10 degrees F out, so I'm nice and warm inside =D
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post #9 of 16
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Here are the images I took of my case while it was out. It's crammed in there right now, another reason I need another case. Anywho, let me know any ideas you might have for it.

Oh and I did notice that there is a place to put a fan in front of the hard drives where I have plans for the 120mm to go. Hopefully it will fit on those mounting holes.










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post #10 of 16
Well I'm on the southwest coast of England. It's a balmy 44f with a 15mph wind here this evening.

Sounds like you have the tools and skills needed.
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