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I've always been interested in building a PC, and now, I finally have the opportunity to do it. I'll have a friend helping me, who's put together his own.


Budget will be about $1,500 - $1700. Not really a hard budget, if the performance warrants the price, I'll take a hard look at it. Not including OS, Keyboards, Mice, or Monitor.


Use is mostly going to be gaming, and I plan on using it as a media center, and connecting it to my TV simultaneously. I don't plan on Overclocking, never looked into it, and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable doing it. I'd like a sound card, need help choosing a quality one. And I'm planning on having a large amount of HD space. (3TB at least) All parts will be bought via Newegg.


Thanks for the help, and advice in advanced.
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GPU: GTX 660 Ti SLI. Same price and much faster than the GTX 680. $460 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133466
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K $330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
Cooler Master 212 Evo cooler $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
MOBO: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157296
Antec 1100 $98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129178
Corsair 750w modular $107 after coupon code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139030
Pioneer 15x Blu Ray Burner $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129074
16GB Gskill Sniper 1866mhz DDR3 $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231611
Seagate 3TB $130 with promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
Intel 520 series 120GB SSD $145
Creative Soundblaster ZX soundcard $150

TOTAL: 1813- $28 instant savings - $60 MIR = $1725
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90GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD + 2TB HGST Deskstar 7K4000 Samsung 24x DVD RW Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Windows 10 x64 
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90GB OCZ Vertex 2 SSD + 2TB HGST Deskstar 7K4000 Samsung 24x DVD RW Cooler Master Hyper 212+ Windows 10 x64 
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Samsung 226BW Logitech K360 Antec True Power Trio 550W Antec 300 Illusion 
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Originally Posted by sgdude View Post

GPU: GTX 660 Ti SLI. Same price and much faster than the GTX 680. $460 AR
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814133466
CPU: Intel Core i7 3770K $330
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501
Cooler Master 212 Evo cooler $35
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099
MOBO: Asrock Z77 Pro 4 $110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157296
Antec 1100 $98
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129178
Corsair 750w modular $107 after coupon code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139030
Pioneer 15x Blu Ray Burner $70
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827129074
16GB Gskill Sniper 1866mhz DDR3 $90
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231611
Seagate 3TB $130 with promo code
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844
Intel 520 series 120GB SSD $145
Creative Soundblaster ZX soundcard $150

TOTAL: 1813- $28 instant savings - $60 MIR = $1725




He said he's gaming. get 8 gb ram, dont get a bluray burner, get 1tb of hdd and 256gb of ssd, get a 3570k instead of a 3770k. Get a nice pair of headphones and an external soundcard. Also, 2x gtx 660s great in raw power, but is limited because of the vram( you coud have 70 max frames in bf3 but u can drop own to 10 occasionally), Get a 7970 instead.


You prolly want a low profile case, i reccomend the nzxt sorce 410. all that stuff will be a tight fit but you just cant beat the style for 40$

Edit: also, you WILL want to overclock in the future, even if by a tiny bit.
Edited by Manishmanny - 1/26/13 at 12:58am
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Razer standard 2013 Kingwin PSU 850w Corsair 650D Razer deathadder 2013 
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post #4 of 26
Try this build :
CPU : Intel i7 3770k (330$)
MOBO : ASRock Z77 Extreme6 (152$)
RAM : CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 (48$)
GPU : ASUS GTX680-DC2-4GD5 (570$)
PSU: CORSAIR HX Series HX750w(140$)
SSD :SAMSUNG 840 Series MZ-7TD120BW 2.5" 120GB (110$)
HDD : 2x Western Digital WD Black WD2002FAEX 2TB (2x180$)

Total cost = 1719 $
All prices are from newegg.
You can go with the i7 3770 non k (i know you don't wanna oc),but it's only 30$ cheaper so i recommend you keeping the k model just in case you change your mind in the future.And by the way the case is not included ,you can pick up whatever you like smile.gif
    
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Aerocool lightwave 120mm x2 Win 7 ultimate x64 Hp LE2201w 22" Corsair hx 850w (80+ silver) 
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post #5 of 26
Do you need stuff like bluray writers etc?
Heres what i would build with that money for gaming:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148844 - Hard drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125414 - GPU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151107 - PSU
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231476 - Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131848 - Mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116504 - cpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239045 - SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181032 - CPU cooler
I recommend not using the stock fans, buy corsair SP120 quiet editions for that.
Total without the case: $1,233.92

For the case i leave you with a few options, take what ever you like the most! wink.gif
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139007
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119245
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139010
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146095
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811147107 - Doesnt fit the h100i most likely, go with coolermaster hyper 212 evo or h80i

That it the best performance to price ratio atm. Performance difference between 7950 and 7970 is less than 5% in most cases, so paying extra for it is not worth it imo.
Also many people seem the recommend i7 for gaming build, difference between i5 and i7 is hyperthreading support, no games to this day benefit of it.
And if need a dvd burner, go for it!
Also you can oc the machine really nice with this, which you some day might end up doing, just spend enough time on this forum thumb.gif
I can't help you with the soundcard, i have no experience of them frown.gif
Edited by EPiiKK - 1/26/13 at 1:37am
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A 660 Ti SLI setup? Seriously? That's just ridiculous! rolleyes.gif

Look at all the people suggesting i7's for someone who'll only be gaming... rolleyes.gif

Best of the Best:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($140.98 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($160.49 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card (CrossFire) ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar Essence STX 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($185.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 650D ATX Mid Tower Case ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1948.37
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 04:36 EST-0500)

Best Value for Money:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($34.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Samsung 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial M4 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D1 24-bit 192 KHz Sound Card ($93.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1308.89
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-26 04:39 EST-0500)

You should really look into overclocking, it's not as dangerous/risky as it sounds, you can't really screw anything up if you've read good guides on the Internet. Don't bother looking at builds with Nvidia GPUs when it comes to getting the most for your money, AMD's graphics cards are the way to go. thumb.gif
Edited by StayFrosty - 1/26/13 at 1:44am
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Honestly, I see no need for a sound card. Built in sound on the motherboard is generally sufficient for most programs. To me, the only time a sound card would be of real use is if you're doing heavy duty sound editing or music creation using dedicated software. Just my $0.02.
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as he said above he don't want for overclocking....

here's my suggestion for you...

CPU : AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7660D = $130

MOBO : GIGABYTE GA-F2A85X-UP4 FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard = $130

CPU Cooler : Cooler Master 212 EVO = $35

RAM : G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1866 = $100

SSD : Crucial M4 2.5" 256GB SATA III = $215

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s = $140

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s = $140

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s = $140

PSU : Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply = $55

GPU : XFX Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (take note GDDR5 and also this for Hybrid Crossfire) = $95

SOUND CARD : Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe (70SB135000000) 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz = $100

OPTICAL DRIVE : ASUS 24X DVD Burner = $20

CASE : NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B1 Red Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $100

TOTAL COST = $ 1400 (from newegg prices)


Hope this build i made will satisfy you ...... biggrin.gif and also a lot room of HDD as you can see almost 9 TB.... biggrin.gif
Edited by xd9denz - 1/26/13 at 1:53am
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Wow.  There is no need for an 850W power supply with two 7950s.  A quality-made 550W power supply would be more than enough.

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Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xd9denz View Post

as he said above he don't want for overclocking....

here's my suggestion for you...

CPU : AMD A10-5800K Trinity 3.8GHz (4.2GHz Turbo) Socket FM2 100W Quad-Core Desktop APU (CPU + GPU) with DirectX 11 Graphic AMD Radeon HD 7660D = $130

MOBO : GIGABYTE GA-F2A85X-UP4 FM2 AMD A85X (Hudson D4) HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard = $130

CPU Cooler : Cooler Master 212 EVO = $35

RAM : G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3 1866 = $100

SSD : Crucial M4 2.5" 256GB SATA III = $215

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s = $140

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s = $140

HDD : Seagate Barracuda 3TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s = $140

PSU : Antec BP550 Plus 550W Continuous Power ATX12V V2.2 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply = $55

GPU : XFX Radeon HD 6670 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card (take note GDDR5 and also this for Hybrid Crossfire) = $95

SOUND CARD : Creative Sound Blaster Recon3D PCIe (70SB135000000) 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz = $100

OPTICAL DRIVE : ASUS 24X DVD Burner = $20

CASE : NZXT Phantom 410 CA-PH410-B1 Red Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case = $100

TOTAL COST = $ 1400 (from newegg prices)


Hope this build i made will satisfy you ...... biggrin.gif and also a lot room of HDD as you can see almost 9 TB.... biggrin.gif

An AMD APU build for $1400?

With all due respect, you're kidding right?

I'm pretty sure he'd get A LOT MORE power for his money for that money.
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Originally Posted by TwoCables View Post

Wow.  There is no need for an 850W power supply with two 7950s.  A quality-made 550W power supply would be more than enough.

Blew my mind. redface.gif
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