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you wanna shove adverts down my throat, make the cable box and service free. anything with a paid subscription model shouldn't have advertisements in my opinion. lets see, your paying for the cable box, your paying a monthly fee to watch channels you pay for, what gives them the right to smother the viewer with unwanted adverts?
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I'm happy to have adverts...Just stop making annoying ones, that's why I would use a product such as this/use adblock, I don't want Flash adverts with sound, I don't want moving pictures, if your product interests me I'll still check it out.
    
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Advertisement is one thing, forcing people to endure them is another thing entirely.

I know where broadcasters and advertisers are coming from. However, once their content enters my home, I can do as I will with it...including recording what I want to see, and skipping what I don't.

If someone has a problem with this, too bad. Either swallow the losses, find another way to advertise, or alienate your customer base further (to your own detriment).

Anyway, regarding legality, precedent is pretty clearly on the side of commercial skipping DVR. If it's legal to record something, it's legal to automate that process.
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I don't like commercials either, but I support them as the current business model to continue to bring us free tv whether it be over the air or on the internet. I treat commercials as a break to get off my duff and get the blood flowing or it's just background noise while I tinker on my many projects when music isn't playing.

Since when has TV been free? I got sick and tired of paying $120/month AND having to put up with ads to get 500 channels with absolutely nothing to watch.
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Since when has TV been free?

May 10, 1928
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Ive seen american adverts, and I can totally understand why you guys would want to skip them. Some of them are just terrible.
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People will watch good commercials, so provide a free environment that promotes creative merit and people will watch.

Exactly. That the upcoming Super Bowl for example. There are plenty of people who enjoy watching the commercials there, but those commercials are USUALLY good and fresh. But by and large, much like a lot of the shows on TV these days, most of the commercials are old as dirt and horrible. It's no wonder people skip past them.
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you wanna shove adverts down my throat, make the cable box and service free. anything with a paid subscription model shouldn't have advertisements in my opinion. lets see, your paying for the cable box, your paying a monthly fee to watch channels you pay for, what gives them the right to smother the viewer with unwanted adverts?

BAM, this!

Her ein the UK, the only channels to be free of adverts are the BBC ones, because they are paid for with the TV licence. Otheweise, any cable subscription should be free of adverts. They're annoying and unnecessary. Especially when watching a film. Every 15-20 minutes there's an ad break. Well, in the age of having boxes that allow you to pause live TV, adverts are unnnecessary in films.

Then again, this is the very reason I don't have a TV licence, subscription or anything like that. I refuse to pay to be advertised to.
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When cable TV was first introduced, the entire premise was constant broadcasting with no commercials.
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May 10, 1928


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