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Hello everyone, I'm not sure where this topic was supposed to go as it is both network and videogame related. So my apologies if I've put it in the wrong place.
But here's the situation: I had a buddy over a few days ago with his PC. We were both hooked up to my Linksys wrt54g2 router using cat5 cables, no wireless.
His pc is a stock clocked i5 2400 with 8 gigs of ram and a 6870. Mine is a 3.8ghz Q9650 4 gigs of ram and a 7870. We decided to play some Bad Company 2 online and we connected to a server in Amsterdam (being from the Netherlands, I'll say that is a short distance) yet there was a noticeable, consistent and not at all minor ping difference between our connections and I'm just wondering why that could be.
I checked the Router's QoS and it wasn't giving any sort of priority to any lan ports, IPs or ports. Though I am running a third party firewall (avast) and my friend wasn't.
Or is it simply down to the fact his PC was faster than mine?

Any ideas?
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software firewall does add latency (avast)
your clients don't necessarily go through the same routes in order to connect to the same server.
the only real test would be to ping google in cmd or do a traceroute.
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Have you tired pinging your own router? Perhaps one of the ethernet cables it bad and cause packets to be dropped.
    
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My second pc, an old E4600, is also hooked up to the same router, same cables.
The pings to my router, google.com and the game server IP in question on both PCs showed the exact same pings and traceroutes.

I did just find out my Windows 7 Firewall is also still enabled, so that means I'm running both the Windows firewall and Avast firewall, would be it be a stretch to say that could be it?
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Does your PC and your friends PC have same exact NICs, with same exact drivers, with same exact NIC driver settings??

What was the ping difference between your PC and your friends PC? 10ms, 100ms, 1hour?
Edited by KGB7 - 1/26/13 at 10:09pm
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Could have been the cable, and in some cases it could have been the NIC on/in your computer.
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Does your PC and your friends PC have same exact NICs, with same exact drivers, with same exact NIC driver settings??

What was the ping difference between your PC and your friends PC? 10ms, 100ms, 1hour?

About 30 to 40ms.
I'm not sure about the NICs but I doubt it, his Motherboard was a good deal newer than mine

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Could have been the cable, and in some cases it could have been the NIC on/in your computer.

I'll check all these things next time he's around and the same ping difference pops up again
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About 30 to 40ms.

That is not noticeable, you only think it is because you see 100ms instead of 60ms when your brain cannot comprehend something that fast. Not saying your dumb or anything just saying you won't notice that. Now add in 500+ms and the game might notice enough to cause some lag which you might notice but 30 to 40 is within the margin of error.
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Honestly 30-40ms difference isn't really a big deal if you are below 130 However i would suggest the cable, Or actually restoring your router to it's basic default settings and going from there.
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Honestly 30-40ms difference isn't really a big deal if you are below 130 However i would suggest the cable, Or actually restoring your router to it's basic default settings and going from there.
no need to do this just turn off your software firewall and try again.
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