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was considering a fx-8350 vishera build for gaming

here is the components i have so far

psu:
Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

case:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

hdd

and everything else...

just need the fx-8350 vishera cpu, mobo, ram & gpu

what's my best bet?
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You best bet is getting a bigger power supply smile.gif

I recommand you get the 7870 or the 7950, pretty nice bang for the buck.

You can always crossfire them later on.


As for the mobo, get the ASUS Sabertooth, or Gigabyte UD7 if you want to do a quad fire.

Ram doesnt matter that much, and 8320 is almost as good as 8350 for much less.
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was considering a fx-8350 vishera build for gaming
here is the components i have so far
psu:
Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045
case:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
hdd
and everything else...
just need the fx-8350 vishera cpu, mobo, ram & gpu
what's my best bet?

Hmmm, that PSU only has one 6-pin connector for the GPU and its not on this list:
http://www.overclock.net/t/183810/faq-recommended-power-supplies

If you could return it & get this Capstone 450 that would be ideal. (it can handle a 7970).
If not, you could always use those splitter cables but its not recommended.

Depending on budget/monitor resolution/games, best current values are the 650Ti for 134$
or
7950 for 299$ (plus the game sleeping dogs)

Gigabyte UD3 for 139$ is a good mobo but the UD7 for 165$ is better.

Ram wise, I heard AMD likes fast memory so 1866 is the sweet spot with 8GB of G.Skill sticks for around 50$.
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PSU: As eXXon said, the Capstone is great. The modular 450W is the same price as the non-mod 450, so I'd take that over the non-mod one in a heartbeat. If you're planning on heavy overclocking or considering adding a second GPU later, you might want to go with a higher wattage one. Rosewill also makes 550+ versions of the Capstone, so you can look at those, as well.

RAM: If you don't want to overclock memory, the 1866 G. Skill is a great pick. If you do, Samsung's "Wonder RAM". I'm not sure how well Vishera scales with memory, but Zambezi didn't really open up very much by going from 1600->1866 memory. It's more the APUs that are really hungry for fast memory, as I recall.

GPU: If you're gaming at 1080p, the 7870 XT is the card of the moment.

Mobo: If you want the best of the best for overclocks and extended warranty, Sabertooth. If you don't mind playing Russian Roulette, you can take a gamble and wait for the open box ones to come back in stock.. The Sabertooth that I have in this rig is actually an open box.

EDIT: Added more memory info.
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Originally Posted by xzamples View Post

was considering a fx-8350 vishera build for gaming

here is the components i have so far

psu:
Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371045

case:
Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042

hdd

and everything else...

just need the fx-8350 vishera cpu, mobo, ram & gpu

what's my best bet?



wont you be overclocking ? with a 450 watt psu , i dont think you could be overclock even upto 4.5 ghz ? tongue.gif

i have heard you need a good psu corsair ax 750 or antec 750 like something for overclocking to 4.8 - 5ghz
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Here's an idea: get a locked i5.

If it's for gaming, it'll end up being cheaper (difference in motherboard cost, being able to run off your acceptable but lower-end 450w PSU no problem), and it will perform better in most games where CPU makes a difference. P.S. I assumed you meant you already owned the PSU & Case, if not, don't get the Antec Three Hundred, it's outdated now.

Downsides:
You won't be able to have fun overclocking it.
???

i5-3350P (note the P means no integrated graphics) - $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116782

MSI mATX B75 - $62
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74886&vpn=B75MA%2DE33&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1387

CPU Cooler - Intel stock cooler - $0 (Compare the total CPU+mobo+cpu cooler to the 8350 option you were considering & remember you can also stick with the PSU you have).

2x4gb Kingston HyperX 1600mhz RAM - $37

GPU depends on remaining budget & resolution of monitor(s) you need to power. This ASUS Zotac 660 is at a pretty good price point for $220 215:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500270
(Edited because even though the ASUS GPU has a slightly better cooler, it doesn't come with a molex->pci-e power adapter, which you'll need with the VP450.) If you want to go higher, probably a 7950. If you want to go lower, probably a 7850 (there's a HIS 7850 for $170), or lower still, a 7770.
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You best bet is getting a bigger power supply smile.gif

I recommand you get the 7870 or the 7950, pretty nice bang for the buck.

You can always crossfire them later on.


As for the mobo, get the ASUS Sabertooth, or Gigabyte UD7 if you want to do a quad fire.

Ram doesnt matter that much, and 8320 is almost as good as 8350 for much less.

hii there,

I am going for asrock extreme4 990 fx mobo . Is that a wiser choice for my fx 8350 vishera ? or I will need to spend more to get a sabertooth 990 fx or crossfire v formula ? wink.gif
your inputs are highly appreciated :thumb
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Here's an idea: get a locked i5.

If it's for gaming, it'll end up being cheaper (difference in motherboard cost, being able to run off your acceptable but lower-end 450w PSU no problem), and it will perform better in most games where CPU makes a difference. P.S. I assumed you meant you already owned the PSU & Case, if not, don't get the Antec Three Hundred, it's outdated now.

Downsides:
You won't be able to have fun overclocking it.
???

i5-3350P (note the P means no integrated graphics) - $180
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116782

MSI mATX B75 - $62
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=74886&vpn=B75MA%2DE33&manufacture=MSI%2FMicroStar&promoid=1387

CPU Cooler - Intel stock cooler - $0 (Compare the total CPU+mobo+cpu cooler to the 8350 option you were considering & remember you can also stick with the PSU you have).

2x4gb Kingston HyperX 1600mhz RAM - $37

GPU depends on remaining budget & resolution of monitor(s) you need to power. This ASUS 660 is at a pretty good price point for $220:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121660
If you want to go higher, probably a 7950. If you want to go lower, probably a 7850 (there's a HIS 7850 for $170), or lower still, a 7770.


I would strongly advise against investing into LGA 1155 and Ivy Bridge at this time as it is currently being phased out by LGA 1150 and Haswell in a matter of 3 months. I know you cannot future-proof with how fast technology is changing, however if it where me I would hate to invest a large portion of money into a system with discontinued parts.
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I would strongly advise against investing into LGA 1155 and Ivy Bridge at this time as it is currently being phased out by LGA 1150 and Haswell in a matter of 3 months. I know you cannot future-proof with how fast technology is changing, however if it where me I would hate to invest a large portion of money into a system with discontinued parts.

*shrug* you can make the same argument against buying ANY processor right now. It's better, when buying computer parts, to get the best available to you, and not purchase inferior equipment that you're going to use for some time based on some possibly-never-realized future benefit.

Yes, Haswell comes out in 3 5 months or so. But this is hardly a reason to suggest no one should buy a computer for the next three five months.

Edit: Presumably you think the OP should get an AM3+ system. I ask you - why would you suggest paying MORE money for the same performance (or inferior performance, if for some reason the OP does not overclock) on the theory that it might save you some money in the future? Having the potential option to save $80 in the future is not worth $50 now when it is questionable if that option will never be realized. It's just a really bad idea, just like those options to pay a bunch more to get an extra year or so on warranty.
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*shrug* you can make the same argument against buying ANY processor right now. It's better, when buying computer parts, to get the best available to you, and not purchase inferior equipment that you're going to use for some time based on some possibly-never-realized future benefit.

Yes, Haswell comes out in 3 months or so. But this is hardly a reason to suggest no one should buy a computer for the next three months.

The FX-8350 is unlocked and trades blows with the Core i5 3570K. So why should he even consider something like a Core i5 3470?


AM3+ is projected to be around for a 2014 Steamroller release, AMD released a statement saying FM2 will have 3 years of life in it and LGA 2011 will be getting Ivy Bridge-E, so I would argue that only LGA 1155 is in the particular situation of where I would not recommend it for the sake that it's being pushed out of the market.

LGA 1155 is by no means "Slow" or a bad choice performance wise. I was just trying to make it known that it's being phased out. You'll be surprised by the amount of people who've never heard of Haswell and LGA 1150.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kjamJm9SxQ
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