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Microsoft is still the nobody in the phone world. They've had a BIG marketing push to coincide with the release of Windows 8 and Windows Phone 8, and they finally have a smartphone OS that is not god awful. They still own only single digit percentage of the overall market.

Microsoft is going to have to everything right to become a big force in the mobile market.

In any case I welcome an open source shakeup of the mobile phone market.
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It's going to get worse & I predicted such. Wait til Verizon gets the upscale 922 (w/MicroSD)...

 

I talked to people back @ Thanksgiving's, that many mentioned they were considering upgrading to WP8's once their carrier offers a larger screen. Plus, Nobody I talk too has a prob with Windows mobile, just stuck in contract, etc.

 

Watch T-Mobil, they are moving the industry forward by decoupling your contract, from your phone. Meaning, you buy whatever phone u want, then decide on whatever "Options/Plan" u want. NO contract allows freedom of options within, & outside of their Network. Subsidizing phones into a plan slows down the business cycle...  most will be getting ride of that. Forcing the customer with more upfront cost.

 

 

 

But, a upscale Verizon 922 4G LTE...  

I'll pay $500+ for that^..   because it completes the trifecta of:

i7 Gamin System/Home Entertainment System, Microsoft Surface RT/Pro... & WP8 mobile..!!

 

Would never have to dirt my hands w/ Android anything, anymore. A price I would gladly pay..


Edited by formula m - 1/27/13 at 12:20pm
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It's going to get worse & I predicted such. Wait til Verizon gets the upscale 922 (w/MicroSD)...

I talked to people back @ Thanksgiving's, that many mentioned they were considering upgrading to WP8's once their carrier offers a larger screen. Plus, Nobody I talk too has a prob with Windows mobile, just stuck in contract, etc.
Watch T-Mobil, they are moving the industry forward by decoupling your contract, from your phone. Meaning, you buy whatever phone u want, then decide on whatever "Options/Plan" u want. NO contract allows freedom of options within, & outside of their Network. Subsidizing phones into a plan slows down the business cycle...  most will be getting ride of that. Forcing the customer with more upfront cost.



But, a upscale Verizon 922 4G LTE...  
I'll pay $500+ for that^..   because it completes the trifecta of:
i7 Gamin System/Home Entertainment System, Microsoft Surface RT/Pro... & WP8 mobile..!!

Would never have to dirt my hands w/ Android anything, anymore. A price I would gladly pay..

So you would be happy going to a completely closed ecosystem and let a company with an abusive monopoly become an abusive monopoly again?
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So you would be happy going to a completely closed ecosystem and let a company with an abusive monopoly become an abusive monopoly again?

 

No, you are confusing Apple, with Microsoft my friend...

post #25 of 82
I loved my N95. It was an amazing phone. I dropped it so many times on concrete from 1.5m height and it was barely scratched. Good thing they are moving on, but I wish they made an Android device. I checked out Lumia 920 and while Windows 8 works great on my tablet and gaming rig, I just don't like its phone UI.
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Microsoft isn't going to go anywhere in the smartphone market. They never have, they never will. Windows Phone is far too restrictive. Microsoft dictates the exact hardware required. which smartphone makers hate. I mean, Android gets a lot of flak about its updates, but WP7 devices aren't even compatible with WP8!


Tizen, Firefox OS and WebOS are nice experiments, but they won't go anywhere due to their web-based nature. Javascript simply isn't fast enough to keep up with native applications.


Android is free, open source, extremely extensible and powerful, with a massive application library and userbase. The author's premise is incredibly flawed. If Apple opened up iOS for 3rd party manufacturers you think there'd be a single manufacturer that would decline for fear of competing with the iPhone?

It will be the year of the Linux desktop before someone dethrones Android.
    
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Stupid title.

+1 Definitely a stupid title. Stupid title gets no attention.
 
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Microsoft isn't going to go anywhere in the smartphone market. They never have, they never will. Windows Phone is far too restrictive. Microsoft dictates the exact hardware required. which smartphone makers hate. I mean, Android gets a lot of flak about its updates, but WP7 devices aren't even compatible with WP8!


Tizen, Firefox OS and WebOS are nice experiments, but they won't go anywhere due to their web-based nature. Javascript simply isn't fast enough to keep up with native applications.


Android is free, open source, extremely extensible and powerful, with a massive application library and userbase. The author's premise is incredibly flawed. If Apple opened up iOS for 3rd party manufacturers you think there'd be a single manufacturer that would decline for fear of competing with the iPhone?

It will be the year of the Linux desktop before someone dethrones Android.

 

Microsoft will have a third of the market when 2013 is over...!

 

You discount all the people who don't like Android, ... & don't want to be part of the restrictive Apple ecosystem. Understand, "smartphones" are only 5 years young and Android has had 5 Major updates to their GUI/Operating System... <-- That pisses alot of people off and it isn't "kewl" to be part of a science project from Google. Many people would gladly move to a Microsoft's ecosystem, because why not? Their Home Computer is Microsoft, their kids college laptops are microsoft.. etc.  To me, Android is a fad, that is how a good many perceive it. It was a cheap way to grab billions, but in the end, the GUI was not a whole OS, this it why Android will be forever fragmented.

 

Leaving only 2 real choices, Apple, or Microsoft.

 

 

 

Face it  & like it or not... ANYONE who has used a WP8 can tell you it is EASY to navigate. That is what 60 year old Moms love... and what people want.

Don't discount the cloud effect either. Linking your WIndows7, or 8 home computer, to your laptop and phone. Granted, it's different and takes a slight learning curve. But a total win/win for anyone who has a home computer and a laptop... now your phone is not fighting you, but a part of the equation, etc.

 

Geesh, it sounds like a good many of you are entirely mobile now and PC'less... who own no Laptops? (netbooks, etc)

 

 

 

Lastly, I am like most adults, we are not into freebies... when I go to make a purchase I buy what is best for me, & I don't let "marketing" weigh in on my decisions... such as, what is "cheaper"..? 

That mindset is lemming'esque,   .... not what is better (for them), but    .. the cheaper it is, the better it is...    because it's free !!

 

When you sell you soul for cheap'ness and freebies..  u have just sold urself on sacrifice & denial, not onto themselves, but in spite of themselves. Android is a marketing ecosystem... for free.

 

Sounds to me, you like Microsoft stuff, the only problem for you, is that it is not cheap enough... 

 

 

 

 

(notice how I didn't use price, or cost in this whole post, important)

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Microsoft will have a third of the market when 2013 is over...!

You discount all the people who don't like Android, ... & don't want to be part of the restrictive Apple ecosystem. Understand, "smartphones" are only 5 years young and Android has had 5 Major updates to their GUI/Operating System... <-- That pisses alot of people off and it isn't "kewl" to be part of a science project from Google. Many people would gladly move to a Microsoft's ecosystem, because why not? Their Home Computer is Microsoft, their kids college laptops are microsoft.. etc.  To me, Android is a fad, that is how a good many perceive it. It was a cheap way to grab billions, but in the end, the GUI was not a whole OS, this it why Android will be forever fragmented.

Leaving only 2 real choices, Apple, or Microsoft.

Android phones are so cheap they only have the fastest processors with the highest resolution screens and most features. What was the last Android phone you've used? A Droid running 2.1?
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Face it  & like it or not... ANYONE who has used a WP8 can tell you it is EASY to navigate. That is what 60 year old Moms love... and what people want.
Don't discount the cloud effect either. Linking your WIndows7, or 8 home computer, to your laptop and phone. Granted, it's different and takes a slight learning curve. But a total win/win for anyone who has a home computer and a laptop... now your phone is not fighting you, but a part of the equation, etc.

All of my documents, emails, apps, contacts, bookmarks, and even WiFi passwords are stored in Google's cloud services. You probably think Google is just a search engine, don't you?
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Lastly, I am like most adults, we are not into freebies... when I go to make a purchase I buy what is best for me, & I don't let "marketing" weigh in on my decisions... such as, what is "cheaper"..? 
That mindset is lemming'esque,   .... not what is better (for them), but    .. the cheaper it is, the better it is...    because it's free !!

The only "lemming'esque" thing here is how people keep thinking Android is some cheapo platform. You realize that pretty much every current Android device costs more than WP8 phones right?
    
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HTC is also investing in Windows Phone 8. The HTC 8x is a very capable WP8 device.

My wife just picked the HTC 8X up and I can tell you that the interface is awesome and so easy to use. Normally when my wife gets a new cell phone, there is a string of profanity coming from her for the next 2 or 3 days. I think she even made up a few NEW curse words when she got her Rezound....

With the 8X, she has it setup and loves it. I haven't had to help her figure out anything. It has been a pretty great experience so far.

On her wishlist is a native Pandora app and maybe a better Pinterest interface. Other than that, she is constantly amazed at how easy the phone is to use, how good the display looks and is very pleased with the camera.
    
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