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I highly doubt it, since the DMCA is a United States entity, and these are British retailers.


Don't countries like GB and Australia adhere to the same standards?
 
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I work in one of the UK phone shops. I don't work on commission either so I don't earn an extra dime if I sell a £45 contract vs a £10 one.
The demand is purely influenced by the price where I work. We have some very good iphone deals, I'd be tempted to say the best, but we still sell far more s3s because people don't want the insane contracts that come with the Apple products, or those high handset costs.
I've noticed a lot of people asking for Samsung android devices based on the recommendation from their peers and we get a lot of customers jumping ship from Apple to Android.
Personally I try not to recommend based on price but to run with the os you've invested the most amount of money and apps in. If someone has their life in iTunes it's just easier for them to stick with Apple and vice versa.
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Double post sorry. Replying from a phone and my signal is balls.
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Double post sorry. Replying from a phone and my signal is balls.

I hope it's not because you're holding it wrong tongue.gif

On a more serious note, I agree with everything you said. Simple fact is we're in a 3rd dip of a recession and Joe Public will go with the better deal. If they can save £20 a month, they will. I also have friends who have grown tired of iOS and jumped ship. I have other friends so entrenched in iTunes they couldn't possibly imagine buying anything else.
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I work in one of the UK phone shops. I don't work on commission either so I don't earn an extra dime if I sell a £45 contract vs a £10 one.
The demand is purely influenced by the price where I work. We have some very good iphone deals, I'd be tempted to say the best, but we still sell far more s3s because people don't want the insane contracts that come with the Apple products, or those high handset costs.
I've noticed a lot of people asking for Samsung android devices based on the recommendation from their peers and we get a lot of customers jumping ship from Apple to Android.
Personally I try not to recommend based on price but to run with the os you've invested the most amount of money and apps in. If someone has their life in iTunes it's just easier for them to stick with Apple and vice versa.

Jumping ship from Apple to Android, eh?

Now who would have guessed that... tongue.gif

Seriously, there are some very solid Android phones on the market with top specs that are selling for less than the iPhone The Droid DNA is in a league of its own: 1080P screen, quad core snapdragon CPU, 2GB RAM, etc. I got to play around with the phone in-store, and let me tell you, it is a serious chunk of hardware. The phone feels smooth, responsive, and powerful. The innovation is now being done on the Android platform.

Apple's last great phone was the 4(s). The 5 is mediocre, and people know it.
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Fascinating Andrews thanks for the link. I wonder if this relates to the recent ruling by the DMCA that unlocking your phone is illegal.

What? There is nothing wrong with unlocking your phone - are you referring to unlocked or jailbreak? Two different things.. A "locked" phone refers to a device which is bound to a contract and a specific carrier; An unlocked phone simply refers to a phone that is bought at full price without any contract subsidies. In other words, you take your unlocked phone and use it on the carrier of your choice, or you can do it prepaid. This is very common, as you can buy both the iphone and android phones without a contract and use them prepaid on a variety of carriers - you pay far less in the long run.

Carriers will even unlock phones for you. I unlocked my iPhone3 before selling it, I simply called AT&T and asked them to unlock it. You can also buy unlocked phones directly from apple or any retailer. Unlocked only means it isn't "tied" to a contract or carrier.

Again, jailing breaking and unlocked are two different things. Unlocked will never be illegal because it is simply a non contractual phone - nothing more nothing less. I bought my iphone5 unlocked directly from apple, it was unlocked and I get unlimited data/minutes for 55$/month. AT&T on the other hand charges over a 100$ per month contractually for the same thing. I used iphone on AT&T for years and pretty much paid way too much....so I asked AT&T to unlock my iphone3 right before my contract ended, and sold it.
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What? There is nothing wrong with unlocking your phone - are you referring to unlocked or jailbreak? Two different things.. A "locked" phone refers to a device which is bound to a contract and a specific carrier; An unlocked phone simply refers to a phone that is bought at full price without any contract subsidies. In other words, you take your unlocked phone and use it on the carrier of your choice, or you can do it prepaid. This is very common, as you can buy both the iphone and android phones without a contract and use them prepaid on a variety of carriers - you pay far less in the long run.

Carriers will even unlock phones for you. I unlocked my iPhone3 before selling it, I simply called AT&T and asked them to unlock it. You can also buy unlocked phones directly from apple or any retailer. Unlocked only means it isn't "tied" to a contract or carrier.

Are you confusing unlock with jailbreak? Again, 2 different things. Unlocked will never be illegal because it is simply a non contractual phone - nothing more nothing less. I bought my iphone5 unlocked directly from apple, it was unlocked and I get unlimited data/minutes for 55$/month. AT&T on the other hand charges over a 100$ per month contractually for the same thing. I used iphone on AT&T for years and pretty much paid way too much....so I asked AT&T to unlock my iphone right before my contract ended, and sold it.

Jailbreaking is legal in the EU, as long as it's not done to facilitate copyright infringement.

You've always been able to buy unlocked phones here too, it's just unlikely that you'll buy unlocked flag ship phones from the retailers detailed in that article. Pay as you go phones in the UK have historically been crap phones, if you wanted the latest and greatest you had to go on contract, although this is slowly changing. You can by an iPhone 5 or Nexus 4 out of contract now but you may as well go direct to Apple or Google.
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Don't countries like GB and Australia adhere to the same standards?

No.
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What? There is nothing wrong with unlocking your phone - are you referring to unlocked or jailbreak? Two different things.. A "locked" phone refers to a device which is bound to a contract and a specific carrier; An unlocked phone simply refers to a phone that is bought at full price without any contract subsidies. In other words, you take your unlocked phone and use it on the carrier of your choice, or you can do it prepaid. This is very common, as you can buy both the iphone and android phones without a contract and use them prepaid on a variety of carriers - you pay far less in the long run.

Carriers will even unlock phones for you. I unlocked my iPhone3 before selling it, I simply called AT&T and asked them to unlock it. You can also buy unlocked phones directly from apple or any retailer. Unlocked only means it isn't "tied" to a contract or carrier.

Again, jailing breaking and unlocked are two different things. Unlocked will never be illegal because it is simply a non contractual phone - nothing more nothing less. I bought my iphone5 unlocked directly from apple, it was unlocked and I get unlimited data/minutes for 55$/month. AT&T on the other hand charges over a 100$ per month contractually for the same thing. I used iphone on AT&T for years and pretty much paid way too much....so I asked AT&T to unlock my iphone3 right before my contract ended, and sold it.

The flip side of that of course is that the price of an unlocked, non-contract phone is in the $500-$600 range which is too much for most people when you can get the same phone on contract for $100...
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The flip side of that of course is that the price of an unlocked, non-contract phone is in the $500-$600 range which is too much for most people when you can get the same phone on contract for $100...

Very true, but if you can stomach the upfront cost you will save a lot of money in the long run. If you buy a subsidized premium phone, we'll say that an iphone 5 costs an average of 250$ for the base 16GB model....the unlocked version starts at 500$. Contracts for unlimited data are priced very high, whereas you can get unlimited minutes/data/etc for extremely reasonable costs on an unlocked phone. It isn't uncommon to get unlimited data for 40$-55$ with unlocked phones, whereas the same thing is very expensive on contract.
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