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post #1 of 10
Thread Starter 
Hello all,

This is my first post so allow me to introduce the situation. So currently I am an Apple user converting back to desktop PC (never thought I'd say this). I use a 13" MacBook Pro 512GB SSD with 16GB RAMM for day to day school/personal use, but for working at home I use a really old computer that is terribly slow and basement material. It is a Cisnet computer that is about 6 years old and turns out the company rebranded but enough of that.

I need your advice as I am a newbie on wether I should buy the new Dell XPS or build a compatible computer. My other option was to make a new rig with comparable if not better specs with a $750 budget.

Here is the specs, check the URL for more info.
Dell XPS 8500
Processor: 3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i7-3770 processor (3.40 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.90 GHz)
Operating System: Windows 8, 64-bit, English
Memory: 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1600MHz
Hard Drive: 1TB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive 6.0 Gb/s
Here's the URL for it: http://goo.gl/ZYVKN

My other option was to make a new rig with comparable if not better specs with a $750 budget.

Purpose:
I trade bonds, commodities, ETFs, forex, gold, options, REITs, and stocks in various OTC markets.
For my work purpose I need 3 monitors with extended desktop, and a FAST processor for handling multiple applications such a trading platform, charting platform, live stock data feed, etc.

I just ordered 3 brand new Samsung LS22B150N 21.5" LED monitors
Further specs: http://goo.gl/m1Brk all of which have VGA connectivity.

I need your help in deciding each component for my new build or to buy the Dell above. If they're any other suggestions for desktops comparable to the Dell please also let me know (UNDER $750)
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According to some computer guide these are the components I would need:
(I will use some parts from the old desktop I have)
Necessary Computer Parts:

Case [could reuse old one]
Power Supply [could reuse old one? Not sure if it will work on the new hardware]
Motherboard [best cost to performance ratio]
Processor (CPU) [must be Intel i7 3770 or faster that costs about the same]
Memory (RAM) [wanting 16gb but could settle for 8gb]
CD-Rom Drive or DVD Drive [dont really want one, could reuse old]
Keyboard [already have wireless]
Mouse [already have wireless]
Speakers [already have, but could use an upgrade, not included in $750 budget]
Monitor [just order 3 - 21.5" Samsung monitors]
Optional Computer Parts and Accessories

Floppy Drive [Lol what's that]
Video Card (If there is no onboard video or you are building a gaming machine) [support 3 screens]

Sound Card (if there is no onboard sound or you want high quality surround sound)

Modem/WiFi (Used for a dial up internet connection if you are not going with Cable or DSL) [wifi would be cool to have, or the same old Ethernet connection works]

Power Strip (Highly Recommended) [if this is a power bar, I already have a 8 socket Monster one]

Printer [already have]
Scanner [already have]

So I need your help in deciding each part that will generate the best performance but is on budget!
If you could provide 2 or even 3 products for each (in numerical order of greatness), that would be amazing.
I will love you forever, and tattoo your username across my forehead.
Edited by partytime - 1/28/13 at 5:50am
post #2 of 10

In regards to the power supply, what is the make and model of your old one?

It's a computer!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #3 of 10
Thread Starter 
I found the specs to the old computer so please try not to laugh.

Cisnet CA-8003B (642474)

* Features: 2.2GHz AMD Athlon 64 3700+ (1MB L2 cache)
* 2MB DDR RAM (Unexpandable)
* 250GB Ultra-ATA Hard Drive
* DVD+/-RW Optical Drive
* 8-in-1 Memory Card Reader
* Integrated Graphics with 128MB shared video RAM
* 56K V.92 data/fax Modem
* Integrated 10/100M Ethernet LAN
* Integrated AC97 Audio CODEC V2.2 with 5.1 channel audio support
* Keyboard, Optical Mouse and 2-piece 120W Speakers Included
* External Ports: 6 USB 2.0; VGA; Serial; 2 PS/2; Parallel; RJ-45 (LAN); RJ-11 (modem); line-in, line-out, microphone
Input: 115/230V~ 6/3A 60/50Hz

Hope this helps!
post #4 of 10

Wow.  Can it play Crysis?  :)

 

Anyway, this helps.  The PSU is not safe to use for a modern system.  Anything powering a system like that must be very old and that means it has a very outdated design that's not really safe for modern systems.

It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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It's a computer!
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
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post #5 of 10
Thread Starter 
STRANDED

I NEED HELP WITH COMPONENTS.
post #6 of 10
Well I have 2 builds for you, and AMD and an Intel, both under $750
Intel Build (Click to show)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yYOI

CPU: Intel Core i5-2310 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $727.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 17:28 EST-0500)
AMD Build (Click to show)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yQyV

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $649.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 17:28 EST-0500)

Enjoy your new computer!
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($289.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77-DS3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($84.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($74.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($84.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GT 640 2GB Video Card ($86.97 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 220 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 450W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($79.64 @ Newegg)
Total: $741.54
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 18:45 EST-0500)
Edited by Shift. - 1/28/13 at 3:45pm
six|speed
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five|speed
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automatic.
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i7 4790k Gryphon Z97 Asus GTX760 OC 16GB Crucial Ballistix 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
2x 256GB Crucial MX100 H60 Windows 8.1 Pro OS X Yosemite 
MonitorPowerCase
2x Dell U2414H Seasonic X650 Legacy U3 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 760 | 4GHz | 1.275v Gigabyte P55A-UD3 MSI NX7600GT  8GB G.Skill ECO 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 LG 22X DVD±R Corsair H50 OSX 10.7.3 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 23" Corsair HX620 Antec Nine-Hundred MX 518 
Mouse Pad
Thermaltake 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X3 710 CACZC | 3.7GHz DFI LP DK 790GX-M2RS ATI Radeon HD 3300 4GB OCZ XTC @ 800MHz 2.08v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital 6400AAKS LG 22X DVD±R Xigmatek S1283 7 Professional 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
20" Acer AL2017 Logitech Media Corsair CX430 Thermaltake Soprano 
Mouse
Logitech G5 
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six|speed
(11 items)
 
five|speed
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automatic.
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790k Gryphon Z97 Asus GTX760 OC 16GB Crucial Ballistix 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
2x 256GB Crucial MX100 H60 Windows 8.1 Pro OS X Yosemite 
MonitorPowerCase
2x Dell U2414H Seasonic X650 Legacy U3 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 760 | 4GHz | 1.275v Gigabyte P55A-UD3 MSI NX7600GT  8GB G.Skill ECO 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 LG 22X DVD±R Corsair H50 OSX 10.7.3 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 23" Corsair HX620 Antec Nine-Hundred MX 518 
Mouse Pad
Thermaltake 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X3 710 CACZC | 3.7GHz DFI LP DK 790GX-M2RS ATI Radeon HD 3300 4GB OCZ XTC @ 800MHz 2.08v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital 6400AAKS LG 22X DVD±R Xigmatek S1283 7 Professional 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
20" Acer AL2017 Logitech Media Corsair CX430 Thermaltake Soprano 
Mouse
Logitech G5 
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post #8 of 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by ADHDadditiv View Post

Well I have 2 builds for you, and AMD and an Intel, both under $750
Intel Build (Click to show)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yYOI

CPU: Intel Core i5-2310 2.9GHz Quad-Core Processor ($177.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: MSI Z77A-G45 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $727.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 17:28 EST-0500)
AMD Build (Click to show)
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/yQyV

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($119.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Memory: Mushkin Blackline 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($44.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($194.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Gamma Classic (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($31.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($22.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $649.88
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-01-28 17:28 EST-0500)

Enjoy your new computer!

In both cases the processor is much slower than the i7 3770 he planned to go with originally.

And the 7850 is overkill for a computer that won't be used for gaming. CPU >> GPU in his case.
six|speed
(11 items)
 
five|speed
(14 items)
 
automatic.
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790k Gryphon Z97 Asus GTX760 OC 16GB Crucial Ballistix 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
2x 256GB Crucial MX100 H60 Windows 8.1 Pro OS X Yosemite 
MonitorPowerCase
2x Dell U2414H Seasonic X650 Legacy U3 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 760 | 4GHz | 1.275v Gigabyte P55A-UD3 MSI NX7600GT  8GB G.Skill ECO 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 LG 22X DVD±R Corsair H50 OSX 10.7.3 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 23" Corsair HX620 Antec Nine-Hundred MX 518 
Mouse Pad
Thermaltake 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X3 710 CACZC | 3.7GHz DFI LP DK 790GX-M2RS ATI Radeon HD 3300 4GB OCZ XTC @ 800MHz 2.08v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital 6400AAKS LG 22X DVD±R Xigmatek S1283 7 Professional 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
20" Acer AL2017 Logitech Media Corsair CX430 Thermaltake Soprano 
Mouse
Logitech G5 
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six|speed
(11 items)
 
five|speed
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automatic.
(14 items)
 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7 4790k Gryphon Z97 Asus GTX760 OC 16GB Crucial Ballistix 
Hard DriveCoolingOSOS
2x 256GB Crucial MX100 H60 Windows 8.1 Pro OS X Yosemite 
MonitorPowerCase
2x Dell U2414H Seasonic X650 Legacy U3 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 760 | 4GHz | 1.275v Gigabyte P55A-UD3 MSI NX7600GT  8GB G.Skill ECO 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 LG 22X DVD±R Corsair H50 OSX 10.7.3 
MonitorPowerCaseMouse
LG 23" Corsair HX620 Antec Nine-Hundred MX 518 
Mouse Pad
Thermaltake 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
X3 710 CACZC | 3.7GHz DFI LP DK 790GX-M2RS ATI Radeon HD 3300 4GB OCZ XTC @ 800MHz 2.08v 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Western Digital 6400AAKS LG 22X DVD±R Xigmatek S1283 7 Professional 64-Bit 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
20" Acer AL2017 Logitech Media Corsair CX430 Thermaltake Soprano 
Mouse
Logitech G5 
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post #9 of 10
Thread Starter 
Ordered some parts hopefully they come in by Friday! I'll throw up a picture
post #10 of 10
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Originally Posted by partytime View Post

Ordered some parts hopefully they come in by Friday! I'll throw up a picture

 

Oh nice.

It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
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It's a computer!
(19 items)
 
  
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5-2500K @ 4.5GHz (1.368-1.384V fixed voltage) ASUS P8P67 EVO B3 (UEFI ver. 1850) GTX 780 ASUS DirectCU II (1228 / 6300, 1.180V) G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB (2 x 4GB) 1866MHz, CL9 
Hard DriveHard DriveHard DriveOptical Drive
250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
Mouse PadAudioAudio
Basic, but premium round X-Fi Titanium HD Klipsch ProMedia 2.1 (with 16 AWG Monster Cable... 
  hide details  
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