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Okay so my friend just pulled the trigger on a dell pre-built (which I advised him not to do), and now that it's arrived and he's tested it out he says its good for what he needs to do but wants me to help him turn it into something a bit more. So here is what I plan to do:

Step 1: Move entire system to Fractal Design Core 1000 ---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352009

Step 2: Purchase and Install new power supply ---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817182131

Step 3: Purchase and Install new graphics card (my aging 560 Ti will find a nice home here) ---> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125363

I'll upload some pics. of the current rig and put down the specs. so you can see what I'm working with. These things are a mess inside!
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
Specs:

Windows 8, 64-bit, English
2nd Generation Intel® Core™ i3-2130 processor (3M Cache, 3.4 GHz)
6GB Dual Channel DDR3 1600MHz - 2 DIMMs
Dell 200 watt Power Supply Unit
1TB Hard Drive, 3.5", 7200rpm, SATA
Intel® HD Integrated Graphics
DVD+/-RW Tray Load Drive, 16X, SATA
Dell DW1506 (802.11 b/g/n) WLAN half mini-Card





Sorry for bad picture quality. These were taken on my phone as I don't pack around my camera with me everywhere. tongue.gif

So what I came here to ask is:

1. Will the Mobo actually accept a dedicated gpu? Yes!

2. Will this be an easy transfer between cases? (e.g., mATX ---> mATX) I have a fear that Dell's custom parts are made to only fit their custom cases. I'm not afraid of a little case modding but avoiding it would be nice. Board does not have custom mounts it is standard mATX.

3. Will the little i3-2130 bottleneck the 560 Ti? Nope!

4. Does the PSU I've selected seem alright? Good!

Thanks for your time OCN, all suggestions and replies are appreciated! thumb.gif

Update: Thanks for all the help everyone! All within a day too! wink.gif
Edited by Insan1tyOne - 1/28/13 at 1:38pm
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1. Yes it will accept a dedicated GPU
2. I'd honestly leave it in that case, if you transfer it, you don't get the back plate, and I don't think the Core 1000 is going to cool much better unless you're just going for looks.
3. That i3 will be perfect for a 560Ti
4. PSU is a bit over kill, you can actually probably get away with the 200W that is in there with a 560ti, but a 400W one would be fine as well if you feel you absolutely must have a different one.
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1. Yes it will accept a dedicated GPU
2. I'd honestly leave it in that case, if you transfer it, you don't get the back plate, and I don't think the Core 1000 is going to cool much better unless you're just going for looks.
3. That i3 will be perfect for a 560Ti
4. PSU is a bit over kill, you can actually probably get away with the 200W that is in there with a 560ti, but a 400W one would be fine as well if you feel you absolutely must have a different one.

I don't think he could get away with the 200w. 2x6pin. A 560ti is ~170w TDP.
Any good PSU 350w+ will power that just fine, though.

I'm with appleg33k in that you shouldn't worry about the case (unless your friend wants the aesthetics).

That motherboard appears to have standard ATX layout, but I can't be certain.
Edited by Syryll - 1/28/13 at 11:02am
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I don't think he could get away with the 200w. 2x6pin. A 560ti is ~170w TDP.
Any good PSU 350w+ will power that just fine, though.

I'm with appleg33k in that you shouldn't worry about the case (unless your friend wants the aesthetics).

That motherboard appears to have standard ATX layout, but I can't be certain.

The only thing that really wants to make me switch cases for him is that this case has a seriously odd PSU mounting mechanism. Its got a few screws holding it up in the back, but it also has this strange slide-and-lock type latch on the side of the PSU. Plus I feel like any case would have superior cooling over that heat box. But if you think a normal sized PSU would just mount in there and be okay It'd be nice not to have to transfer cases at all.

Also you really think it's an ATX layout? It's much smaller in person and looks a lot like mATX to me. Thanks for the quick replies! biggrin.gif
Edited by Insan1tyOne - 1/28/13 at 11:10am
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The only thing that really wants to make me switch cases for him is that this case has a seriously odd PSU mounting mechanism. Its got a few screws holding it up in the back, but it also has this strange slide-and-lock type latch on the side of the PSU. Plus I feel like any case would have superior cooling over that heat box. But if you think a normal sized PSU would just mount in there and be okay It'd be nice not to have to transfer cases at all.

Also you really think it's an ATX layout? It's much smaller in person and looks a lot like mATX to me. Thanks for the quick replies! biggrin.gif

After comparing to a few random mATX boards on the egg, I kindly ask you to excuse my derp. Another small thing you could do is re-TIM. Might help cooling a hair or two.

Make sure you set video to PCI-E in Bios tongue.gif
Edited by Syryll - 1/28/13 at 11:20am
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Its a mATX board for sure, but standard design (screw lay out, etc.)

I wouldn't worry about the PSU mounting, my brother had a very similar Dell which I replaced the PSU and GPU on - everything worked beautiful till I tore it apart to make a total beast lol
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Its a mATX board for sure, but standard design (screw lay out, etc.)

I wouldn't worry about the PSU mounting, my brother had a very similar Dell which I replaced the PSU and GPU on - everything worked beautiful till I tore it apart to make a total beast lol

Awesome everyone. I'll just replace the GPU/PSU and then call it a day. Im sure he'll be glad to know that we can keep the price down. And also...
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After comparing to a few random mATX boards on the egg, I kindly ask you to excuse my derp. Another small thing you could do is re-TIM. Might help cooling a hair or two.

Make sure you set video to PCI-E in Bios tongue.gif

Derp excused, and I'll make sure to remember that. Do I just change the default to PCI-E or disable Intel HD Graphics completely?
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Awesome everyone. I'll just replace the GPU/PSU and then call it a day. Im sure he'll be glad to know that we can keep the price down. And also...
Derp excused, and I'll make sure to remember that. Do I just change the default to PCI-E or disable Intel HD Graphics completely?

Well... Definitely set it to default. If you're not using it, what's the point of keeping it on? tongue.gif
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I don't see any reason to leave the integrated graphics enabled. Disable them once you have the GPU in.
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^ Agreed.

Also don't see the point in a case swap, just get a new PSU if needed + install the new vid card.
After a certain point there's little reason to tweak a pre-built so heavily, you may as well return or resell it and start from scratch.
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