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With only 1k of these being produced and a 1500 dollar price tag I'm still confused on what happened to Amd this round with the 7990. It was very late to the party and in very limited numbers. It was said to be released shortly after the 7970 in Q1 of 2012. The 6990 seemed to be a pretty popular card. You rarely even hear the 7990 get mentioned. Not sure what happened this round I was really looking forward to the 7990. Maybe they will get it right next round. This card is little too late imo as is the ghz edition. Nvidia had already raked in the majority of sales before these even hit the market. New cards are coming next month hopefully from both camps.

There was no 7990 from AMD.... it's a custom design made by AIB partners, namely Powercolor, Club3D and now Asus with its Ares 2, when will people realize this?
It's essentially the same thing as the Asus Mars cards which are custom creations by Asus and have NOTHING to do with nVidias official dual-GPU products (GTX 295, 590, 690).
Fact is AMD didn't offer an official dual-GPU product this time round so AIB partners went ahead and made their own thing (comparable to eVGA's dual 560, not an nVidia product either).
Why else do you think is the 7990 not featured on AMDs official site and not mentioned in any of their driver change logs?
Edited by toX0rz - 1/29/13 at 4:49am
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[BThere was no 7990 from AMD.... [ [/B] it's a custom design made by AIB partners, namely Powercolor, Club3D and now Asus with its Ares 2, when will people realize this?
It's essentially the same thing as the Asus Mars cards which are custom creations by Asus and have NOTHING to do with nVidias official dual-GPU products (GTX 295, 590, 690).
Fact is AMD didn't offer an official dual-GPU product this time round so AIB partners went ahead and made their own thing (comparable to eVGA's dual 560, not an nVidia product either).
Why else do you think is the 7990 not featured on AMDs official site and not mentioned in any of their driver change logs?

I'll take your word for it. I honestly thought they released it. Although considerably late and well after their competition I thought they had done it. What a major fail on their part. All the talk and roadmaps back in January of last year boasting about their dual-gpu monster. And to believe there are those who say Amd won this round of cards. Both the 6990 and 590 had their share of issues with heat, power consumption, noise etc but overall were decent cards until you tried to overclock them. So this year Nvidia comes out and hits a home run with the 690 which did all the things the 590 didn't. Great design, great thermal cooling, quiet and very power efficient. Then you add in its incredible scaling when at its release was very similar to both 680 sli and 7970 crossfire. Yes after 10 months in production the 7970 Amd released the Ghz with new drivers and finally took the lead over the 680 after it had a clear lead since it hit the market. But imo taking a lead towards the end of Q4 after you were losing in Q1/Q2/Q3 and you didn't even match your competition with a dual-gpu card. Thats not victory sorry. Thats like winning the final race of the season after losing all the previous. Then in the championship race not even showing up with a car. Very disappointing to say the least. Hopefully Amd gets it together and releases a 8990. With only a two horse race we consumers need this competition from these companies.
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There was no 7990 from AMD.... it's a custom design made by AIB partners, namely Powercolor, Club3D and now Asus with its Ares 2, when will people realize this?
It's essentially the same thing as the Asus Mars cards which are custom creations by Asus and have NOTHING to do with nVidias official dual-GPU products (GTX 295, 590, 690).
Fact is AMD didn't offer an official dual-GPU product this time round so AIB partners went ahead and made their own thing (comparable to eVGA's dual 560, not an nVidia product either).
Why else do you think is the 7990 not featured on AMDs official site and not mentioned in any of their driver change logs?

found this
http://developer.amd.com/tools/heterogeneous-computing/amd-accelerated-parallel-processing-app-sdk/system-requirements-driver-compatibility/
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/Pages/game-home.aspx

and it is supported under their drivers.

but i agree with the no 7990 from amd. but they do support it and acknowledge it.
Edited by kfxsti - 1/29/13 at 9:11am
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For once, I wish they would give you the option of using whatever you want. The 3930k and above come with no stock cooler, because they are enthusiast parts, bring your own cooling to the party.

The Mars/Ares cards should be sold completely naked, and have partners release full-cover blocks at the same time. That way, they can remove the cost of the cooling setup, and users can slap on whatever they want (be it air, water, AIO, ln2, etc) without having to remove anything. A clean slate.

Hey Asus, what happens when the pump fails? Or it leaks water inside the enclosure? It makes me feel uneasy...

With only 1000 of these being made, I doubt partners will get involved to make custom parts for these.

The market is way too small, and ASUS wouldn't be able to charge $1500 for a naked card.
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Hmm, saw a (video-) review of that card. I dont like the card. Of course it is powerful and all that but imho the 690 looks way better.
And I would not have to worry where to fit the strange rad.
This is just my opiniion and I am sure there are people who love it.
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I think it's time for Guru3D to update their test bench... rolleyes.gif
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I think it's time for Guru3D to update their test bench... rolleyes.gif
GASP! And get rid of the x58 Big Bang!? Nevarr!
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Getting laughed at by two guys whose systems are far inferior to mine. Hurts to the core. Talking big but playing small. I admit I was wrong. The 690 had no problem with the 7990 and for the price it was a much better comparision outside the 690 being built much better. This new card is a beast but would I drop 1500 on it. Hell no. I'll avoid Amd's drivers like the plague. Like Vega said Amd is far too late with this monstrosity.
Your system is weak. Try again. biggrin.gif
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Collectors item GPU? lol

Is that a fancy way of consoling ones self why they overpaid for tech that is about to be obsolete with a new series launch? This "collectors" item will be worth about $50 on Ebay two years from now after two GPU series launches.

Have you ever seen what the mars cards go for? Last time I checked, a mars 2 is like $2k, or more.
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Your system is weak. Try again. biggrin.gif
Have you ever seen what the mars cards go for? Last time I checked, a mars 2 is like $2k, or more.

People actually BUY them for $2k, or people trying to sell them for $2k?
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People actually BUY them for $2k, or people trying to sell them for $2k?
Sell I would imagine. They have been posted for quite a while, lol
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