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considering the top end Intel gaming NIC's have around a 150mhz processor / NPU and like 16-32mb of ram for buffering.

regular onboard NIC's have none of the above and rely on your computers system ram / CPU and your windows network stack to control them the others with onboard ram and CPU/NPU cut the middle man out ( computers ram /cpu and windows network stack ) and do the work on the NIC like the servers do.

higher end server NIC's feature around a 400mhz processor / NPU and around 128mb of ram but wont work in a regular motherboard and also dont have drivers for regular PC use.
Edited by rickcooperjr - 5/24/13 at 5:56pm
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Show me a "higher end server NIC" that wont work in a "regular motherboard." I've worked around servers and HEDT/workstation hardware for a long time and I can't think of any.

This is, of course, not to say that everything else you're saying isn't BS.
    
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Again prove it show me a bloomin fraps capture of the difference wink.gif

Also stop posting links to sites that used their tests of course the manufactures tests are gonna show the product in a good light, look at the bit tech or the anandtech (who refused to publish as the nic was a joke)

But beuty is in the eye of the beholder ei .. ahree to disagree? (But please learn to use the edit buton)
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Have you used one personally or are you just repeating what you hear?
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No need, i have a idea how the real world works if the card can reduce my ping by 15 or ms when the ONLY thing it can eefect is this :-

[alex@pc-193-54 ~]$ ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64 time=3.12 ms

And not THIS

[alex@pc-193-54 ~]$ traceroute google.com
traceroute to google.com (173.194.34.73), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets
1 First hop 12.936 ms 15.654 ms 18.396 ms

Then $50 is way way way too much money, again ive asked him to prove me wrong by showing me, and he wont, i send that to anyone, show me fraps proof of decreased ping, or just stop making stuff up, where even reviews of sites agree that it does not decrease lag nor improve ping (ignoring bigfoots own tests .. i mean otherwise you use IE right as its the fastes browser according to microsoft?)

But hey belie what you will --_-- if you still ant to buy them go ahead no ones stopping you, but serioulsy dont preach how amazing it is increasing you abiality to play games on anything other than a older pc
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Agreed, I did get mine when I was so frustrated with my inboard some years ago. Newer boards may not suffer the same issues and also back then there were less cores to offload to. As for preaching ill stand on the hightest hill and proclaim my love for this card, I've used it for too many years to deny its benifits.

It's been well documented this is not a night and day difference for most. If you want to see a slap in the face difference run the card for six months and then go back to inboard, that's where your going to see the benifits it's provided.
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Then prove it xD! It must do something .. decrease ping and latency? Imposible, increasr thoughout... nope unless you have a insane connection, increase fps, yeh sure you will get a increase depending on the pc

Bit tech somes it up perfectly

Conclusion
It says a lot that it was so difficult for us to see any tangible difference from the Killer 2100 despite our best efforts to test in a scientific and consistent way. Even in our theoretical tests where we could control the variables of our local, private network we saw little benefit from the Killer 2100.

When gaming we saw little difference between our (free) on-board network controller and the Killer 2100 in terms of ping and frame rate. The only advantage we found was that the Killer 2100 allowed us to download in the background while gaming - possibly handy if you buy loads of games via download services but haven't the patience to wait for those downloads. This makes it very difficult to recommend the Killer 2100 as, at the end of the day, everyone wants some kind of tangible benefit for their £68.

For the gamer who has everything, the Killer 2100 could be a consideration, as we did see very slight ping improvements in CoD 4 and CSS, after all. Having said that, you might see better improvements in online gaming performance by spending that £70 ditching your ISP and getting a more gamer-friendly one (pay close attention to whether, and how much, gaming traffic is throttled). Alternatively, invest in a new mouse or keyboard, or put the money toward a larger monitor.
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that's not six months of use. No mention of value adding software. I a owner and user of said tech, posting links are not going to convince me sorry.
post #49 of 77
oki what does the software add,

sell it to me xD!
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I have one of these and it is sitting unused on a bench. I may end up putting it back into my computer if I can get it in without having to disconnect any tubes but the only reason I would put it back in is that the software it came with was pretty slick.

I am not saying it didn't make a difference because I really can't say that it did or did not. I know the software could make a huge difference but I think you can get similar software for free. Doesn't Asus Network iControl do something similar? Or just set up a decent QoS rule set in a decent router and you don't have to install software on your PC. I can share P2P with tons of open connections without it affecting other users on the network because of QoS where as the software that comes with the killer 2100 is only going to affect that one PC.

I don't know how much work has to be done on a huge mmorpg raid but I could understand that if any cpu offloading is done that if the CPU is not handling that instantly that it could cause issues. I used to play WOW and in large raids the reported latency would increase.


Either way I have not been convinced one way or another by anything I have read except to say it def does not make a big difference.
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