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Hey all, first of all I'd like to say the members here seem nice. I've been lingering for a bit now and like the forum.

I am new to PC gaming, so my lingo knowledge is limited...bear with me smile.gif

I am a long time gamer, started with Power Pete for Mac back in the early 90s. I lately find myself submerged into teamwork in Battlefield 3 on PS3. I highly enjoy the planning, the risk and the action.

I have since found DayZ. While I understand it is only a mod at this stage, and its resources are more process based as opposed to GPU needs (given that it needs to run a script, then run the engine, then process to video) I also know it needs a decent Graphics processor.

I am beginning the planning stage of my build which includes knowing specific models I will be purchasing as well as from where...here's what I have in mind.

The budget for the build is ~$700 USD. If less, awesome, if a little more (tops 800) awesome. I do understand the more you put in it, the more you get. But I am not looking for a turn of the century gaming rig that can run everything on Ultra. The main purpose of the machine would be to run FPS games like Battlefield, at a rate that will be equivalent or beter to that coming from a PS3, so from what I've read about 60FPS, as well as run in very high or moderate settings games like DayZ (stand alone & mod). I do know once the standalone is released it will run a lot smoother, so if it can run the mod I am not even worried about the standalone.

I have considered using an i5 2500K and overclocking, but I am not savvy enough to what it entails and what it would need in terms of cooling.

For a case, I'm thinking something like this...but not set to:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811208036


In terms of motherboard, I am not sure given that I am not educated enough yet.

The HDD I need nothing larger than 1TB, so I would go for something like that.

In therms of RAM, I am considering something like 8GB of G.Skill Ripjaws

GPU: Educate me? I've seen many suggestions, but I've never heard any suggestions for my specific build.


Let me know what you guys think. No I am not set on anything, simply on what I've read from these forums.

Thanks again!!
-E
post #2 of 19
You could spend most of the budget on the CPU and motherboard. like you said dayz in primarily a CPU game, so get a high-end i5K or or low-mid range i7K. intel k processors overclock well and easily. Also get a good overclocking motherboard, this way you will get a easy to use user interface in the BIOS for overclock settings. Cooler wise a cooler master evo 212 are under $40 and they cool well enough for a minor-medium overclock. GPU wise if you looking to save some money find any of these nvidia cards 560, 570, or higher. For AMD gpu 7850 and up should be fine as well let you psu determine the GPU though. Hope this helps, also if you plan on overclocking your gpu that can help save some money as well.
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if you wanna save your self some money on case that looks similar to what you picked out get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

It has a lot better cooling options for case fans and it can fit almost any aftermarket cpu heatsinks if you ever plan to do some overclocking. You can also remove the top hard drive cage to fit the really long gpus.
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Well, as far as a vidcard is concerned, I can't really notice a difference between about 45FPS and 100FPS, LOL! But each person's eyes are different. And for most anything above 30FPS is OK. Thus, for medium eye-candy, and given your budget, I'd check out:
EVGA 02G-P4-2660-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130825
$219 free shipping, $209 after MIR.

CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
$99 free shipping and much better case overall.

MOBO: ASUS P8Z77-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131832
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Here's where I got started when building my first PC.

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/

Budget gaming PC $250-$600 range.

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/budget-gaming-pcs-v3-6/

Mainstream gaming PC $800-$1500

http://www.hardware-revolution.com/mainstream-gaming-pc-december-2012/

I would probably mix and match from both sections to get the most bang for your buck depending on what you want to skimp on to get better parts in other areas. Good luck!
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HD 7850 or 7870 would be the 2 video cards I would most likely get with your $700-800 budget.
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post #7 of 19
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Originally Posted by Chillie View Post

You could spend most of the budget on the CPU and motherboard. like you said dayz in primarily a CPU game, so get a high-end i5K or or low-mid range i7K. intel k processors overclock well and easily. Also get a good overclocking motherboard, this way you will get a easy to use user interface in the BIOS for overclock settings. Cooler wise a cooler master evo 212 are under $40 and they cool well enough for a minor-medium overclock. GPU wise if you looking to save some money find any of these nvidia cards 560, 570, or higher. For AMD gpu 7850 and up should be fine as well let you psu determine the GPU though. Hope this helps, also if you plan on overclocking your gpu that can help save some money as well.
I could see that working. What is the proper way to overclock a GPU and what do you need?
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Originally Posted by redalert View Post

if you wanna save your self some money on case that looks similar to what you picked out get this

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119233

It has a lot better cooling options for case fans and it can fit almost any aftermarket cpu heatsinks if you ever plan to do some overclocking. You can also remove the top hard drive cage to fit the really long gpus.

I am most definitely choosing this one you suggested.

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Originally Posted by OS-Wiz View Post

Well, as far as a vidcard is concerned, I can't really notice a difference between about 45FPS and 100FPS, LOL! But each person's eyes are different. And for most anything above 30FPS is OK. Thus, for medium eye-candy, and given your budget, I'd check out:
EVGA 02G-P4-2660-KR GeForce GTX 660 2GB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130825
$219 free shipping, $209 after MIR.

CASE: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN3-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with USB 3.0 and Black Interior
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
$99 free shipping and much better case overall.

MOBO: ASUS P8Z77-M LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131832
$124 free shipping
Well the way i see it is, if I'm going to be spending about $800 on a PC, it better be better than my console which was $200.

Is the video card better/comparable to the 7850?
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HD 7850 or 7870 would be the 2 video cards I would most likely get with your $700-800 budget.

I have looked at these, I have wondered mostly about the 7850.
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Originally Posted by exedy699 View Post

I could see that working. What is the proper way to overclock a GPU and what do you need?
I am most definitely choosing this one you suggested.
Well the way i see it is, if I'm going to be spending about $800 on a PC, it better be better than my console which was $200.

Is the video card better/comparable to the 7850?
I have looked at these, I have wondered mostly about the 7850.

you need decent cooler to keep your cpu temps down. sandy bridge (ex: 2500K) processors run a bit cooler than ivy bridge (ex: i53670K) cpus. Ivy is faster. Both sandy bridge or ivy bridge will be perfect for you. as far as overclocking im by no means an expert but i prefer to overclock using the bios and changing the multiples to my desire overclock and or fbus. if you look in my profile i have asus bios interface pic along with example overclock settings.
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post #9 of 19
I forgot if you get a good motherboard most of them now have a autoclock feature where the mobo figures out a safe but effective overclock for you....very easy and it works well. I know some of the better asus mobos have this feature and it works great.
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post #10 of 19
If you really are in the St. Louis area, there is a MircoCcenter. Right now you can get the following

  • i5 3570K 189.99
  • ASRock Z77 Extreme4 89.99
  • Samsung 2x4 Ram DDR3 1600 47.99
  • Asus 7850 219.99


Total 599.63 including tax

Pick your case, PSU and a 212 cooler and you're all set and within budget.
    
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