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@RavageTheEarth

How would you compare the MSI TF 7950 vs Sapphire 7950 3L?

I'm deciding between them for a single card air OC.

I'd lean towards the Sapphire 7950 3L because MSI has quality control issues, i.e., fan problems, TIM application. Otherwise I'd lean towards the MSI TF 7950 because Sapphire 7950 3L lack VRM temp sensors, which I don't know should be an issue or not.
Edited by Stealth3si - 3/11/13 at 9:33am
post #162 of 189
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@RavageTheEarth

How would you compare the MSI TF 7950 vs Sapphire 7950 3L?

I'm deciding between them for a single card air OC.

I'd lean towards the Sapphire 7950 3L because MSI has quality control issues, i.e., fan problems, TIM application. Otherwise I'd lean towards the MSI TF 7950 because Sapphire 7950 3L lack VRM temp sensors, which I don't know should be an issue or not.

I own the sapphire 2l, but it is pretty similar to the 3l and I have it crossfired with my msi TFIII. I would choose the TFIII anyday over Sapphire products. The sapphire has a plastic shroud surrounding the fans and feels...well, cheap compared to the MSI TFIII which has a metal shroud and is heavy duty. I personally believe that msi has improved quality control a bit recently and really, its worth replacing the TIM to own a card like that. It is a beast of an overclocker and it is just high quality and really sexy. I would go with the TFIII I know you will love it.
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I own the sapphire 2l, but it is pretty similar to the 3l and I have it crossfired with my msi TFIII. I would choose the TFIII anyday over Sapphire products. The sapphire has a plastic shroud surrounding the fans and feels...well, cheap compared to the MSI TFIII which has a metal shroud and is heavy duty. I personally believe that msi has improved quality control a bit recently and really, its worth replacing the TIM to own a card like that. It is a beast of an overclocker and it is just high quality and really sexy. I would go with the TFIII I know you will love it.
Sweet.

Did you use the "X" method to apply the TIM?

Should I try MSI AB first to OC then Trixx?
Edited by Stealth3si - 3/11/13 at 7:41pm
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Sweet.

Did you use the "X" method to apply the TIM?

Should I try MSI AB first to OC then Trixx?

My MSI TFIII actually didn't need to have the TIM replaced. There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with my card. It overclocks to 1225/1625 as a single card and temps don't go past 57c. Now that I have it in crossfire and it is the top card it gets to around 63c, which is still really cool, but if you do have to replace the TIM just carefully take it apart and use a paper towel to get the TIM off and then a lint free microfiber cloth to get it nice and shiny so it just looks like a clean mirror and then use the pea method with the TIM and put on the heat sink is perfectly lined up when you put it back. If you end up having to pull the heatsink up again because something wasn't lined up make sure you re-apply the thermal paste because to get the best temps you want to put even pressure downwards and remember, LESS IS BETTER. Also, don't use IC Diamond because it will scratch it. I would use Coollaboratory Liquid Ultra, but anything like AS5 or MX4 would be just fine. CLU would help you steer clear of throttling though.
post #165 of 189
I really would like some addiitonal feed back comparing the:

the current MSI TF 7950 vs Sapphire 7950 3L?

(a couple of post above someone said the 2L was almost the same as the 3L but I don't understand how this can be true; I mean visually they look similar but the 3L is quite a bit shorter and has different connectors).

Anyways due to my case I want a shorter card which dropped the gigabyte out of contention (as well as the L2 which for a while was $270). The problem is that in reading a *lot* of reviews et all I've noticed a couple of things:

a) The MSI TF has changed design of some sort at least once and probalby twice. Most of the early reviews are not completely relevant to the card shipping today.

b) There are no reviews on the 7950 3L
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My concern are noise, stock performance (or modest overclocking) and reliability. I.e, I do not want to disassemble the fan and replace the thermal paste. Some folks suggest the MSI had a loud fan but is the current model better (I know early reviews suggested it was quiet). Like wise for the sapphire (btw my understanding is that MSI will allow you to replace the thermal past without voiding the warranty).
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Also for the fellow above who said his MSI Frozr was fine; where/when did you purchase it (or are all currently shipping frozr the same revision?)
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post #166 of 189
The Sapphire 2L is a reference 7950 board and will be one of the quietest cooling solutions other than the Gigabyte WF3. The MSI is supposedly a good overclocker, but the cooler doesn't cool as well and keeps the VRMs a touch toasty .
post #167 of 189
But as i said neither the gigabyte (my first choice) nor the L2 will fit in the case; so I'm mostly curious bout the MSi vs L3 -though ravage has pretty much convince me to go with the MSi.
post #168 of 189
What case is it? I d heavily considering modding the case a smidge over compromising on $300 card.
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My clocks jump even at 20% power control. This really sucks idk what to do
why would you want the clocks to stay locked during desktop use? It's unnecessary power. It goes back up to your OC clocks only when needed.
post #170 of 189
Lots of good info in this thread. Got a question.

Has anyone ordered this msi7950 from newegg in the past few weeks to a month? I'm wondering what version they've been sending out. I know they're prob not doing the 7970 pcb anymore but what about boost/non boost models?

Newegg only lists the normal 880mhz one but I dunno how much they change their listing around to match the exact product specs for a given batch. Anyone with a fresh card got a heads up?
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