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post #11 of 57
Yes the VRMs used are pretty inefficient, but it's not something which you start to notice as low as 4 GHz. It is a real problem when you go higher though.

My rig

@stock, 1.1V - 140W off the wall
@4.43G , 1.16V - 172W off the wall
@4.64G, 1.25V - 220W off the wall
post #12 of 57
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Originally Posted by glina View Post

Yes the VRMs used are pretty inefficient, but it's not something which you start to notice as low as 4 GHz. It is a real problem when you go higher though.

My rig

@stock, 1.1V - 140W off the wall
@4.43G , 1.16V - 172W off the wall
@4.64G, 1.25V - 220W off the wall

Yea, when they're lower temps, without that much voltage being pushed through them they shouldn't reveal their weaknesses that early smile.gif
post #13 of 57
VRMs come into play at about 7-1GHz above stock, as this is when you start to needs more volts to keep it going
     
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What could be contributing is your board's poor VRMs. D-PAK mosfets produce oodles of heat and can possibly result you in having to use higher voltages for lower frequencies, something you are already just "dealing with".

Correction, LF-PAK, sin0822 rates that as a 2 instead of a the D-PAK's 1 =\

Pulling all of that information from here which is linked here

It is also a 4 phase, of mediocre quality, not sure what to think about that.

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That didnt come to my head, he is right, lower quality VRMs will need more volts to mainatain a certain speed compared to higher end VRMs

So basically, my MOBO is crappy. Should I try to exchange it for something nicer?
Also, are you guys saying that these volts are fine/livable because of my boards construction?

Thanks again.
post #15 of 57
Yes, but you might be able to find a good buyer at the FS section. Get an asus or gygabite udh3 as they are very good overclockers, but get a cooler with it or there is no point
     
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No! You don't need to sell your motherboard, given your limited overclocking aims.

Don't get wrapped up in the VRM and phases stuff. If all you want is a 4.0 overclock, any board is going to be fine. It should be very simple for you. Reset the BIOS optimized defaults, leave everything on Auto, and change the multilpier to 40. That's all you should need to do for that overclock. Almost all 3570Ks are going to do 4.0 at stock volts.

Your temperature issue is a different matter. What is your case airflow situation? What fan speed are you using for the cooler?
Edited by Forceman - 1/29/13 at 11:07am
post #17 of 57
4.0ghz is (or should be) a walk in a park for any 3570K.
post #18 of 57
Most will do it fine, and maybe even give you a chance to bump volts down a bit as IvyB is believed to come with a bit to much volts anyway
     
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post #19 of 57
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Thanks for all the feedback so far everyone. I appreciate it.
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No! You don't need to sell your motherboard, given your limited overclocking aims.

Don't get wrapped up in the VRM and phases stuff. If all you want is a 4.0 overclock, any board is going to be fine. It should be very simple for you. Reset the BIOS optimized defaults, leave everything on Auto, and change the multilpier to 40. That's all you should need to do for that overclock. Almost all 3570Ks are going to do 4.0 at stock volts.

Your temperature issue is a different matter. What is your case airflow situation? What fan speed are you using for the cooler?

Cooler: CM Hyper 212 Evo - "Automatic" mode set at 55*C level 8 (out of 9)
Corsair Carbide 200r case with 2 120mm Fans at level 8 (out of 9) - Front fan is intake and rear fan is exhaust

I would have to agree that this is a very mild overclock of 4.0ghz.
I reset to STOCK "Automatic" mobo controlled voltage, with only changing my multiplier to 38 (3.8ghz), and my core volts still capped at 1.224v with temps at 65*C. Temps are better, but volts are still kind of high. Should I try to force my volts lower than Stock/OEM or leave as stock? If I force them lower, how would I do that? Offset -0.005v?

I will reseat my cooler when I get home from work and give it a go.
post #20 of 57
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Originally Posted by NopeNope View Post


So basically, my MOBO is crappy. Should I try to exchange it for something nicer?
Also, are you guys saying that these volts are fine/livable because of my boards construction?

Thanks again.

No, it's not crappy.
My Extreme4-M can push the i7 up to 4.84GHz. You should have absolutely no problems running your i5 at 4.0GHz or even 4.4GHz,
Try the settings I recommended (and the cpu pll at 1.586V) and see where that gets you with temperatures.
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