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Hi, I am getting an Samsung 840 Pro to replace my 830(both 256GB) and I need to migrate my C(Windows 7 Pro) Drive which is current on the 830 to the 840 pro, then secure erase the 830 for sale.

I have read this but still unclear on what I need to do, can someone give me a step by step walkthrough?

What I got so far:

1. Install new 840 Pro
2. Format
3. Create a system image backup on the 840 Pro
?? Confused, not sure about the next 3 step.
4. Shut down and disconnect 830
5. Boot through the system image backup on 840 Pro?
6. Secure erase my 830 like this?
Edited by sherlock - 1/29/13 at 9:29am
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I keep looking over how people are doing this and I see all the programs and different guides.

You wish to clone a drive bit for bit from one SSD to another of the same size. You have a really simple need.

I am far from some uber linux guru, but I would suggest you use a built in utility called DD copy. It will copy bit for bit the contents of one drive to another.

What do you need to accomplish this.

A Linux Live CD. I suggest Knoppix as it also includes tons of other useful programs that you may use some day.

Connect both drives to the same system.

Boot up into the GUI of the Linux Distro

Open the file manager and figure out what Linux has assigned to the Drive (Kind of like drive letters) it will be something like "sda" or "sdb".

Now pay close attention to which one is which otherwise you may be copying the blank one into the old drive. (which would make you lose all the data)

Open up a terminal window

run this

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb

if= Source Drive

of = Destination Drive

REALIZE THAT THERE IS ONLY A DIFFERENCE OF ONE LETTER ON THESE VARIABLES...DO NOT MIXED THEM UP

The disk is now being copied. It will take awhile, but eventually the prompt will return.

Then just reboot and make sure you select the new drive.

Can't help with the secure erase, I have never needed to do that, I hold onto all my SSDs since I need all the space I can get...or I shove it into an older system to make it run 10x faster -_-.

HTH,
-NitroNarcosis
Edited by NitroNarcosis - 1/29/13 at 9:29am
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Originally Posted by NitroNarcosis View Post

I keep looking over how people are doing this and I see all the programs and different guides.

You wish to clone a drive bit for bit from one SSD to another of the same size. You have a really simple need.

I am far from some uber linux guru, but I would suggest you use a built in utility called DD copy. It will copy bit for bit the contents of one drive to another.

What do you need to accomplish this.

A Linux Live CD. I suggest Knoppix as it also includes tons of other useful programs that you may use some day.

Connect both drives to the same system.

Boot up into the GUI of the Linux Distro

Open the file manager and figure out what Linux has assigned to the Drive (Kind of like drive letters) it will be something like "sda" or "sdb".

Now pay close attention to which one is which otherwise you may be copying the blank one into the old drive. (which would make you lose all the data)

Open up a terminal window

run this

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb

if= Source Drive

of = Destination Drive

REALIZE THAT THERE IS ONLY A DIFFERENCE OF ONE LETTER ON THESE VARIABLES...DO NOT MIXED THEM UP

The disk is now being copied. It will take awhile, but eventually the prompt will return.

Then just reboot and make sure you select the new drive.

Can't help with the secure erase, I have never needed to do that, I hold onto all my SSDs since I need all the space I can get...or I shove it into an older system to make it run 10x faster -_-.

HTH,
-NitroNarcosis

Thanks for the help, but I am using Windows so doesn't that conflict with Linux?
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I threw this guide together for you.

No DD Copy is universal. This may seem like a super hard job, but it really is not. It is the most effective way to perform a complete clone with no need for additional programs.

Insert CD and boot from disc. If you do not know how to set this in the BIOS most of the time you can press F8 before Windows loads and it should bring up a screen with boot options.
I am not referring to the windows advanced boot options menu. If that comes up you have gone too far into the boot cycle to actually boot from CD.
You can always edit your BIOS by pressing either F2 or Del key right after you see the first splash screen.

Go into the Boot section of the bios look for Boot priority and make sure your CD ROM/DVD ROM is before the hard drive.



Press Enter to begin boot



You will then see something like this it may take a few minutes to load up the OS.
Take into consideration that you will experience Lag when running Knoppix. The OS runs only off the CD and your memory and is kind of like a Console running a game. It needs to read from the disc a lot so it may be a bit laggy. It is still very powerful.



When you get to a screen like this it is time to begin.

Click the logo at the bottom left, where the Start button on windows based OS.



Go to accessories -> File manager
Be sure that both drives are visible



Now open up a root terminal window.



Navigate to Accessories -> Root Terminal

Now Run this command

Fdisk –l (That is an L as in Lima)



Now you have the disk locations.
/dev/sda and /dev/sdb (Yours may differ)

Now in the same terminal window, once you have figured out which drive is which. Run this command

dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb

if is the source drive so in your case the Samsung 830

of is the destination drive in your case the Samsung 840 pro

Once finished you will return to a prompt. Trust me it may take awhile.

I hope this helps,
-Nitronarcosis
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Thanks for the guide. One question: Does the 840 Pro need to be formatted before I do the cloning?
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No it does not.

The DD copy is a low level copy that will copy off all the partitions from the old drive to the new drive. if you had formatted it though...it would not matter. it will just be blown away/overwritten.

I say low level, because the function is not aware of active file systems that are on the disk...it simply copies all data that it sees from one location to the other.


Since you are doing an apples to apples copy from one SSD to another it is a very simple process.

The alignment will be right (Assuming it is right on the current drive) the little 100mb partition that 7 created will be there. you won't even be able to tell the difference. No one could.

Reading over this may give you better understanding of the command

HTH,
-NitroNarcosis
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  1. Install easeus partition master or todo backup and click to clone the drive to the new drive.
  2. Boot from new drive from bios.
  3. Format the old drive.
  4. Done. lol
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Maybe I am just old fashioned. How do you copy a mounted partition that is being actively written to by the host OS? what prevents a critical write from occurring during the process?

Also, formatting a disk does not securely erase all of the data that is on the disk. The OP wishes to sell his 830. So he wants to be sure all his porn and cc numbers is gone off the drive. -_-

Instruction set was requested. The OP was confused enough by the thread he posted prior. I too was confused when trying to run through that thing. It is massive and provided way too many programs.

Anyway, would you care to elaborate on your suggestions for both the OP and myself?

Thank you,
-NitroNarcosis
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Originally Posted by Sean Webster View Post

  1. Install easeus partition master or todo backup and click to clone the drive to the new drive.
  2. Boot from new drive from bios.
  3. Format the old drive.
  4. Done. lol
+1

"Don't make mountains out of mole hills." wink.gif
http://www.todo-backup.com/products/home/free-backup-software.htm

EaseUS makes windows cloning trivially simple. And to the person that asked about how it works for an OS that's in use - probably by taking note of all the changes that occur during the cloning process, then also propagating those at the end.


If worried about wiping out the old drive, do a secure erase:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1227597/how-to-secure-erase-your-solid-state-drive-ssd-with-parted-magic
     
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