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It's really annoying that their APUs have rebranded GPUs. The APU isn't about having a high clocked CPU, it's about integrated GPU performance, so why did they only do a slight overclock + rebrand? They could have got more GPU performance under the same TDP by keeping CPU clock speed the same and increasing GPU clock speed more.

It's harder to OC a GPU than a CPU, given the amount of cores that the clock rate will effect. There's a reason why even the GTX Titan can't reach 4.9 GHz (although that would be quite interesting...).

As for the rebrand, keep in mind that AMD has to work with OEMs, their customers. The OEMs want to get consumers to replace their old stuff with the "new", and an easy way is to simply increase the number label.

Nividia also does the same with their low end GPUs.


EDIT: Personally, I prefer a CPU overclock for the mobile chips and a stock GPU clock. For the A10-4600m, the GPU can be OCed, but the CPU, often a bottleneck, can't. You can lock it at 2.7 GHz, but can't push it any farther even if the laptop is running at 60 C.
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According to this article it looks as if a HD7000 series video card will be able to be used in crossfire. Not the same Gpu's as the A10-5800k is currently compatible with, which is Huge!
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Richland-APU-iGPU-Clock-Speeds-Specs,20748.html

I would take that with a huge grain of salt.
Nothing from AMD (all slides leaked/released) has shown that GCN would be included in Richland.
Everything has shown that Kaveri will be the first APU to feature GCN and Steamroller cores.
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There are conflicting reports on what type of GPU Richland will have. I'd say wait until March 19th, which is when the NDA expires and the new APUs show up.
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If Kaveri is everything it should be, it is going to be the basis of my home theater PC!
The idea of not requiring a discrete card is extremely appealing, as I would sooner fill the PCI-E slots with a sound card +Areca/3ware/LSI/Adaptec hardware RAID card + TV Tuner Card + Intel Dual-Gigabit NIC Card.

Stick this combination into the Lian Li D8000 or the other smaller cube they make, add a 128GB SSD for the OS/Programs, a 64GB SSD (cheap) for HDD Cache, 8x 2-4TB 7200RPM Hard Drives for RAID0 (or 10 or 5 or 6), a Blu-Ray Burner, a CPU block, a modded D5-PWM, a pair of 360 UT60s in P-P, and fill the case fans up with Noiseblocker fans, and add a Lamptron FC-Touch. Throw in a USB 3.0 card reader, and add some noise dampening to the case. Use the suspensionmethod of mounting the hard drives...

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There are conflicting reports on what type of GPU Richland will have. I'd say wait until March 19th, which is when the NDA expires and the new APUs show up.

I thought NDA lift was today 03/12/2013?
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There are conflicting reports on what type of GPU Richland will have. I'd say wait until March 19th, which is when the NDA expires and the new APUs show up.

NDA has been lifted on Richland mobile apu's. GCN not included.
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Pay no attention to the “HD 8000″ moniker attached to these parts. Richland’s GPU is based on the same Cayman-derived chip that AMD launched in 2011 as the HD 6970 and in 2012 in Trinity-based APUs. AMD, however, isn’t just claiming that Richland is a bit faster than Trinity — it promises that the new platform draws less overall power as well.

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NDA has been lifted on Richland mobile apu's. GCN not included.
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Yes, NDA is up.

VLIW4 Northern Islands but it works with Sea Islands mobile GPUs. Up to 40% more performance as well due to the Hybrid Boost technology. smile.gif

GCN is for Kaveri while Richland is a silicon refresh that is actually supposed to bring some decent performance increases to the table.
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VLIW4 Northern Islands but it works with Sea Islands mobile GPUs. Up to 40% more performance as well due to the Hybrid Boost technology. smile.gif

How did they pull that off? That has to be the first example of cross generation crossfire support.
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How did they pull that off? That has to be the first example of cross generation crossfire support.

They aren't really saying and I asked point blank. It could be some lower end Solar parts are rebrands of NI but that's doubtful. Rather, I think they're using some clever software tricks to balance workloads.
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