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This gives you all updates as they come, including new versions.

$130 every two years for a 1 PC license.

or

$99/year for a 5 devices (PC, Mac OS, Windows 8 RT/Phone) license with 20 GBs of cloud storage.

This really isn't as bad of a deal as people are making it out to be, and really, I'm starting to see a trend coming a live in this thread. That trend being, that the majority of people bashing the software suite seem to be raging Linux users obsessed with bashing anything and everything that isn't free.

I'm not bashing it. I'm just saying it's over priced and makes you entirely dependent on internet access. Where you get this view of Linux users is a mystery but hey people bury heads in the sand daily on this crappy rock.

And believe it or not the reason MSOffice continues to be the de facto for most people is...wait for it...because it was what they were indoctrinated in school with and they know of no other alternatives. The only problem is not that MS makes a fairly decent product...it is that consumers fail to do their part and then complain about any little change because they think they have no alternatives ("control"). No one should have mercy on anyone like that. Those are the same people who pirate MSOffice and complain about the price. The price is "fair" or look elsewhere.

Now here's a real shocker...I'd be happy if MS made a Linux port...because then I'd almost never boot Windows...and they could still make money off me (have to have MSOffice on the off chance I can't convert or open one of their non-standard file formats) but without me being upset at them. Everyone wins except for blind rabid fanboys. But alas, MS won't do that.
     
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I'm not bashing it. I'm just saying it's over priced and makes you entirely dependent on internet access. Where you get this view of Linux users is a mystery but hey people bury heads in the sand daily on this crappy rock.

And believe it or not the reason MSOffice continues to be the de facto for most people is...wait for it...because it was what they were indoctrinated in school with and they know of no other alternatives. The only problem is not that MS makes a fairly decent product...it is that consumers fail to do their part and then complain about any little change because they think they have no alternatives ("control"). No one should have mercy on anyone like that. Those are the same people who pirate MSOffice and complain about the price. The price is "fair" or look elsewhere.

Now here's a real shocker...I'd be happy if MS made a Linux port...because then I'd almost never boot Windows...and they could still make money off me (have to have MSOffice on the off chance I can't convert or open one of their non-standard file formats) but without me being upset at them. Everyone wins except for blind rabid fanboys. But alas, MS won't do that.

How does it make you dependent on internet access? They are local applications just like regular office. I had my internet out this morning and they started up working just fine. Tested it just again to make sure.
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How does it make you dependent on internet access? They are local applications just like regular office. I had my internet out this morning and they started up working just fine. Tested it just again to make sure.

So if you go for months on end without internet access everything will work just like regular MSOffice? That did not seem clear to me. And there's nothing preventing you from moving your files the old fashion way? Then why have two versions outside of milking one for possibly a higher price?
     
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So if you go for months on end without internet access everything will work just like regular MSOffice? That did not seem clear to me. And there's nothing preventing you from moving your files the old fashion way? Then why have two versions outside of milking one for possibly a higher price?

I don't know how long it would work offline though honestly the percentage of people that would need to be offline for any length of time outside of a corporate situation (who would internal activation servers anyway) is rather slim. Skydrive is a mix between Dropbox and iCloud. Your files are synced with the cloud but also stored locally. If you lose connection it will resync when you get internet again. It can also save versions of files so you can revert back if you need to.

As for the higher price, I read this article earlier today. If you are using more than a single PC with only the Home version, it is actually cheaper to do Office 365. The advantage is that your version of Office is always up to date, there are in-browser versions of apps so you can work on Office from any browser (mobile included), ability to stream apps to a PC without them (I assume faster than the browser past the initial download, it took about 30 seconds on my 20mpbs internet), etc. I am lucky enough to take advantage of the $80 student deal that covers 4 years of 365 for 2 PCs, 60min of skype per month, and 20GB extra Skydrive storage. However, before I knew that existed, I was about to get the $99/yr version for 5 PCs. I have a desktop, my wife has a desktop, and we share a laptop so that is 3 versions of 2013 we would need to buy. that's over 3 years of 365 (and probably more like 5 if we bought one copy of Home and Business to get Outlook as well) and if there is a new version of Office out in that time frame we automatically get the new version. Office 365 is always up to date. Also, I was going to split the extra 2 licenses with my brother.

In the end, Office 365 is just another option. You don't have to buy it and you can still get the regular package of Office 2013 like always. But it really is a great service and works really well, especially for me since it all syncs up with my Surface RT and Lumia 920. Honestly, I think most software suites like this will move to a subscription package offering. MS offers the regular standalone versions and probably always will but this service is pretty slick. It gives MS a steady stream of income to better appropriate, gives customers the latest version for no bulk costs (i.e. $500 to upgrade all your PCs at once), and brings along some pretty sweet services.
Edited by IEATFISH - 1/31/13 at 11:30pm
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Forgive me for reviving a slightly dead thread...but the problem is actually MS doesn't live up to it's own standards which the others follow. So when I get a nice DOCX file there's a good chance something is going wrong not because the Libreoffice guys messed up...because MS doesn't follow it's own standards. But yeah, when you're "the standard" it's easy for people to think you're actually following your own standards.

As of Office 2013/365 they actually do support the standards they've been pushing since Office 2007 - ie. the non-transitional standard of Office Open XML. Is it absurd that it has taken 7 years? Sure it is. But the standard itself is absurd and so was its standardisation process (if you could call it that), so I guess absurdity is embedded in its foundations.
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uhh yeah.. need more pricing options for those with 2 or less computers
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I'll just pay $0 a year and keep using LibreOffice. Does everything I need it to do and the price is outstanding. smile.gif
     
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In other news:
The Document Foundation want you to pay NOTHING a year for LibreOffice.



Most people are fine with the stated alternative although Microsoft does have a lot of things LibreOffice and OpenOffice don't have, and $100 a year is expensive.
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But you can push out updates for the game to enhance visual effects instead of selling a brand new game.

His original argument was why the planned obsolescence and making you pay for the new version, instead of continuously updating? I countered with why don't games update for better visual effects, instead of making a brand new game and charging you for it?

Because content, while games rely on visual effects content is equally or even more important, Office relies on you for content and visual updates are mildly irrelevant
 
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Because content, while games rely on visual effects content is equally or even more important, Office relies on you for content and visual updates are mildly irrelevant

You don't get what I'm saying.

I'm comparing the visual effects in games to security updates and features in Office.
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